Creating a New TCG!

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Posted on March 2, 2016, 7:27 p.m. by SaintJamez911

Hey guys, I'm making a new TCG and what better place to try and promote it then card sites. All That being said, the game will be called Galaxyite. I started up a Kickstarter for it with more information.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/444249627/galayite

Thanks for checking it out!

EDIT:

If you have any questions or comments I would be happy to chime in and explain things more. Again Thanks for checking it out!

ABadMagicPlayer100 says... #2

Link for the lazy

March 2, 2016 10:14 p.m.

EverythingIsK says... #3

If you can provide a Game Design Document with more info on mechanics and design of the game, I might go on board with it. I wouldn't mind helping you out.

March 3, 2016 12:40 a.m.

SaintJamez911 says... #4

I'm currently getting it all typed up right now. should be done soon.

March 3, 2016 12:15 p.m.

SaintJamez911 says... #5

I would have made a file to upload but the site doesn't support it here, so I'm just going to Copy Paste it in here.

Galaxyite Rules Show

Galaxyite Rules

Before playing Galaxyite you must first have a deck containing at least 60 cards. When you have a 60 card deck, you may begin to play the game. Each player starts with 20 health. At the start of the game each player should either flip a coin or roll a die to determine who would go first. Each player draws 10 cards for his/her hand to start the game. Then each player will draw a card on his/her turn; This is called the Draw-Phase.  Once a player draws he/she may continue on to Phase 1 and play cards.  After Phase 1 the player continues to the Combat Phase  where creatures that are on the field may attack if chosen to. Creatures played during Phase 1 of this turn may not attack unless it has Swiftness. After the Combat Phase, the player continues on to Phase 2. Just like in Phase 1 a player may choose to play more cards from his or her hand. Once Phase 2 is over, then the player continues to the End Phase. The End Phase is an the preparation for the end of the players turn and the player must discard a card until he/she has a maximum of 10 cards in hand.

Phases

On any giving players turn, they have 6 phases. These phases are played in this order. Pre-phase, Draw-Phase, Phase 1, Combat Phase, Phase 2, and lastly End-Phase. On these phases a player can do many things, however there are limitations to them as well.The Pre-phase: is before you draw your card on every turn, cards may effect the pre-phase but you may not play cards on YOUR pre-phase. The pre-phase is also when you would flip your stones back to the original placement.The Draw-Phase: is the part of your turn that you may draw a card, you may not play cards during this phase.Phase 1: is used to play cards such as creatures, stones, casts, and snapcastes. Each player may play 1 stone in Phase 1 and place the stone in the Phase 1 Stone Pile.Combat Phase: Is when a player is attacking, a player may select to attack a creature or a player unless another card says otherwise. The player being attacked is the defending player and may choose to either block with another creature or take the damage from the attacking player. In the case of multiple creatures attacking and defending, defending player may choose to block certain creatures but let others attack them.Phase 2: is used to play addition cards after combat, this is a great way to even the playing field or turn the game in your favor. The player may play more creatures, stones, casts, and snapcasts. If the player played a stone in this phase is would be put into the Phase 2 Stone Pile.End Phase: The end phase is right before you end your turn, this phase is when you would discard a card. At the end of the players turn, each player may have a maximum of 10 cards in hand, unless the players hand size is changed from another card.

Stone Piles

Stone Piles are where a player places his/her stones. If a player plays a stone on phase 1, it goes into the phase 1 stone pile. The phase 1 stone pile may only be used to play cards in phase 1. If a player plays a stone in phase 2, that stone goes into the phase 2 stone pile. The phase 2 stone pile may only be used to play cards in phase 2. However if the player plays a snapcast, he/she may use both stone piles to cast that card, as long as it is outside of Phase 1 or Phase 2.

Snapcast

Snapcast is a spell that can be played at anytime during the game, as long as it as in response to either a card being played or a response to a phase starting.

March 3, 2016 12:59 p.m.

SaintJamez911 says... #6

Card Spoliers!

March 5, 2016 4:13 p.m.

SaintJamez911 says... #7

Spoiler for Lorika Voha

Lorika Voha Show

March 6, 2016 12:20 p.m.

kengiczar says... #8

@ SaintJamez911 - Before you get to into it might want to check up on this case and the results of it. To actualy find news on it search "Hex vs MTG" or something similar. I don't know how it all turned out. I've often wondered how the Force of Will TCG, which I love, hasn't been sued to oblivion yet. People say it's because "MTG is to big to care" but I doubt that's the case since it raised hell against Cryptozoic Entertainment and the Hex online TCG.

This was a fairly big deal for awhile last year. Anyways as long as you can't afford a lawyer be educated about this and do some research first.

Things to look out for
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1. The phases take place in the exact same order.
2. Combat appears exactly the same. I didn't read all of it. I've detailed in the next section MTG and FoW combat at a glance and showed how they are different. Just tweaking a few small things is enough for it to fly.
3. Counting Increments Matter BIGTIME: What I mean is some games have copyrighted the use of basic numbers. Pokemon I beleive holds the copyright for using increments of 10 for HP. Similarly Yugioh holds the copyright for counting things in increments of 1,000. MTG definately holds the copyrights for counting with single digits in an Attack/Defense (A/B) manner. If they didn't then the Force of Will card game would have just coppied them. You could do damage counters like Pokemon but count in increments of 100 (just like how Force of Will is MTG with increments of 100) just double check that whaever you want to do isn't copyrighted.

Again, MTG most likely owns all forms of tracking "damage" or "health" counting in single digits, Pokemon owns at least the HP concept counting by tens, Force of Will owns the concept (I think? Not 100%) of counting in 100s, and Yugioh owns the concept of counting in 1,000s. Most Likely. This is one area where copyrights work, I'm just not 100% on which games own which or did or did not file.

The original set of Force of Will had something called LifeBreak. In essence you set aside some of your cards for use later similarly but still quite different to how with Pokemon you put some of the top cards of your deck into your "Prize area" and get them when you defeat Pokemon. I don't know if Force of Will stopped doing Lifebreak because it sucked (it makes things very swingy and unpredictable. bassically unpressional) or beacuse it got legal requests and/or orders to do so.

Some things you could do Show

1. Rearrange the phases -
   Force of Will (the TCG) does Draw, Recover (Untap), Main Phase, Cleanup or whatever (end step). It uses the term "phase" to represent something similar to what magic calls steps (untap step, draw step etc.)

2. Clarify how you want combat to work -
   (General Force of Will Rules)

3. There is no combat phase. You instead make attacks with 1 creature at a time during the main phase, like Vanguard. Unlike MTG there is only 1 main phase. You can do stuff, attack, leave combat, still be in main phase 1, do stuff or attack, etc etc.
4. You can attack rested/tapped resonators (coughcreaturescough)
5. You can only block with one thing at a time.
6. If you declare an attack and a blocker is assigned then removed before damage all of your attack goes through unless your resonator is messed with before damage is calculated.
7. Summoning sickness is called something else but is simmilar to MTG's. The difference is it goes away as soon as the next turn begins. Much better for tap effects.

(General MTG Rules)
1. There is a combat phase.
2. You assign all attackers at once. 3. Multi-blocking allowed.
4. "Fog" blocking allowed. In other words if you assign a blocker and then it dies you still block unless they have trample.
5. Summoning Sickness applies until it's been there till the start of your next turn. (The way you have it worded means if I play a Flash type creature/whatever before Main1 it can attack that turn. This is different enough from FoW and MTG that it should be ok.)

Also I am not 100% yet but seeing as how FoW hasn't been sued to hell yet it might be ok that you use similar mechanics to MTG and either leave the name off or have them act differently because of the rulesof the game.

Mechanics Examples Show

Lifelink - Not a named mechanic in Force of Will.
Deathtouch - Not a named mechanic in Force of Will.
Flying - Exactly the same in FoW as MTG.
Trample - Called "Pierce" in FoW. Slightly less usefull because of fundamental rules with blocking.
Haste - Called "Swiftness" in Force of Will. I recommend you change the name to something else but keep the mechanic as is. (Alternatively you could have ALL creatures/whatever have haste but not for activated abilities, or vice versa)

Generally speaking it seems like MTG found the best basic concepts for building a car and judges thought it would be rediculous if only Ford was able to build cars so they let other companise use the same parts: Engines and all they are made of, Chasis, Tires, Basic Drive and Belt sytems etc. Just try and make all of your parts unique or to rearrange them and change just some of them for now.

I very much like how you have two stone areas. Super freaking sweet! I also love that the Instants are the only cards that can pull from both. Awesome concepts. I haven't seen anything like this since Mongola which nobody has ever attempted to implement into a TCG. I look forward to this.

If you want to make a creat TCG you realy should buy a deck and play Pokemon, MTG, Force of Will, Yugioh, and NetRunner. Also trying Legend of the Five Rings (called L5R for short) would help out as it had a very unique system where you had 2-4 decks from what my buddy who used to play at championships tells me. It is even more different from MTG than FoW yet still much closer in spirit than a lot of other TCGs.

March 24, 2016 4:37 a.m.

kengiczar says... #9

@ SaintJamez911 - One other thing. I undersand how hard it is to take it slow and methodically as when I have to do that I am constantly afraid that I'll lose ideas I think up. You need to go about that this way though.

Here's an outline of all the things you need to do:
1. Find somebody to manage the business. (This should be you or somebody who has proven experience in business. Maybe somebody who manages a fast-food restaurant and likes to do this stuff in their spare time.)
2. Find somebody who solely works with artists and is in charge of making sure you have enough art.
3. Find somebody who is solely in charge of Storyline. Yes this is important. If you truly want to make this game a franchise you need this. I mean you don't need it immediately and could get away with 3-4 editions without it depending on the type of game your making.
4. Find somebody who works on mechanics 24/7 (or as much as they possibly can.)
5. Find somebody who is decent at making websites and somebody willing them to manage them. This can be the same person or two different people.
6. Find somebody who can work the non-website portions of your network for later on down the road. For now just develop contacts with as many students or professionals in network administration or advanced tech support as you can find. This is somebody to set up all the routers, switches, PCs, etc for when you eventually get a small office.

Of course this is all assuming you want a basic typical company structure and a small team. If you want to do it all solo power to you but let me tell you, it will take the majority of your time just coming up with a whole set. If you're going to do this you may as well make money off it because it is such a time consuming endeavor.

Before you start getting tons and tons of donations you need to have a structure set up so that when those donations come in you can convert that dough into bread without having to go to the store and buy flour so to speak.

A lot of people on kick-starter that make tons of money quickly failed because they couldn't achieve their goals regardless of the money they raised, they were overwhelmed, or they weren't organized so things kept taking longer than they should, which lead to them not meeting milestones, which lead to them abandoning projects. Having an outline and at least procedures will help immensely.

All the employees should be capable of creating their own procedures and refining them. The managers are in charge of creating Policies.

March 24, 2016 5:05 a.m.