Help with League of Legends
The Blind Eternities forum
Posted on March 24, 2015, 4:29 a.m. by CommanderOfBolas
so i know this is a site for MTG, but I figured there would be a few people here who could help me out. A friend of mine (same one that got me into magic) recently got me into league. it has been a lot of fun, but I, naturally, want to improve. I need help figuring out which items to be building, when to work on them, etc. I am currently using Talon, but I am not opposed to switching it up
JexInfinite says... #3
Well, if you are willing to spend as much time playing League as you do thinking about Magic, I'm sure you'll improve.
March 24, 2015 4:32 a.m.
CampbellStev says... #4
Learn to play with **SmartCast** as early on as you can, it is a invaluable tool (Turn the Smartcast off for your R when you are playing Rumble).
I agree w/ Khanye, Mobafire is a invaluable website to learn how to play a champion and to also get a idea on how to build that champion under certain circumstances.
One thing I should mention though is that you should not follow a build guide religiously. Some builds may not work as well for you as they might for others. Don't be afraid to experiment (if the items are within reason) and try new things.
At the end of the day, it all comes down to practice; The more you play, the more your skill will improve :)
The last piece of advice that I can give you is that:
"Skins Get Wins" ;)
March 24, 2015 4:59 a.m.
You're going to suck for a very long time. I mean it; you'll be absolute trash. Many of the people you play with will be the same. You'll get better as you play and begin to play with better people. It's a natural progression as you get more familiar with the game and learn what's good for which characters and how to improve your playstyle. The best advice is to just play a lot.
March 24, 2015 7:25 a.m.
Step 1 - Practice.
You get a Daily Win Bonus of 150 IP. Let this be your motivation to play once every day or every other day. If you can't win your Ranked matches, play Normal matches. If you can't win Normal matches, play Bot matches. "Smile! It's called gun play."
Step 2 - Read Mobafire guides.
There are other guide sites out there, but Mobafire guides consistently give the most information for newer players. Other guide sites assume that you already know a lot about the game, and that you just want to see how top players optimize unusual builds.
Step 3 - Practice.
One of the oldest guides on Mobafire recommended opening a private custom game in which to safely practice basic skills such as last-hitting, wall-jumping, Flashing, and ward placement. It is exactly like the Tapped Out playtester.
Step 4 - Learn different roles, champions, and items.
Guides give you a good start, but are no match for real understanding of interactions in the game. The more you know, the more intelligent your choices and reactions will be. The best Magic players are strong because they understand the format and their decks.
Step 5 - Practice with SmartCast, Attack-Move, and unlocked camera.
Most players use SmartCast for speed. Many professionals don't, because they have better reaction time and prefer the accuracy of standard casting. Learn both for their appropriate situations. Using Attack-Move correctly will instantly make you a better player - at all levels.
Step 6 - Ward.
Map vision and communication are the most powerful elements of the game. What if you could see where all the enemies were, all the time, and they could never see you? What if there were a land card with with Telepathy?
Step 7 - Watch professional competition.
Once you have more or less mastered your basic skills, they will fall into the back of your awareness. Watching professional competition will introduce you to team combos, tower dives, map pressure, objective trading, beatdown-control, and other subtle strategic elements.
Step 8 - Ward
Jace, the Mind Sculptor unbanned.
March 24, 2015 7:46 a.m.
fluffybunnypants says... #7
Mechanics, mechanics, mechanics. Work on your last hitting and stutter-stepping. Work on avoidance.
Play all the rolls, it will help your understanding of the game.
Take opportunities to play against people who are better than you. You'll get crushed, but you'll learn more than you will against people at your level.
Ward and don't be like Ezreal, he's a cardboard V noob ("who needs a map?").
Don't be afraid to play free to play champions while you're still developing your champion pool.
Learn about map pressure and what effect it will have on your objective control. Learn to positively impact lanes other than your own, especially as an assassin like Talon.
Learn to pay attention to the timers (flash, ignite, Baron, Dragon, etc.).
March 24, 2015 8:27 a.m.
As a side note, I'd love to play with you. I'm only Silver 2, so I can't teach you much more than the basics (I also only play jank, just like in Magic)- nevertheless, you might learn something. Like, maybe, that playing champions in their intended roles is something you should probably try to do. League name is same as on here- add me if you like.
March 24, 2015 8:37 a.m.
TheDuggernaught says... #9
Mobafire guides are fine for now... but once you have a basic understanding of the game, move onto a site with better guides. As stated before, Mobafire usually does a good job of explaining super basic things, but the actual builds and runes and masteries and upper level strategic elements are not as developed or as sound as builds found on something like lolpro or probuilds, which features guides written by actual pros. Keep in mind though that the builds provided are general builds. Playing against certain champions or comps might mean a different build is optimal. But they probably will not stray too far from the general build. Eventually you will not need guides, even for new champions.
I would suggest just look at every champion and just trying to learn what they all do. This was easy for me when I started playing in S1 as there were not nearly as many champions. But as arduous as it may be, getting a feel for what every champ does will give you an idea of how to play against them (which is just as, if not more, important than knowing how to play your champion), but might also introduce you to a champion that you think you might like.
If you are playing Talon, these are items that most traditional Talons will probably build or consider throughout a game: Youmou's Ghostblade, Ravenous Hydra, Boots of Mobility, Mercury Treads, Last Whisper, Black Cleaver, Guardian Angel, Hexdrinker/Maw of Malmortius, Quicksilver Sash, and Infinity Edge.
Wards
Timers for Dragon. Spawns at 2:30 and 6 minutes after it is taken. Dragon is super important.
At least introduce yourself to attack-move. It helps all roles. Not just adc.
If you have not already, unlock your camera.
Once you get a feel for the game and how long skill shots and your auto attack range are, go ahead and turn on quick casting. I used to swear by traditional casting. But then I started playing Pantheon who has to combo in fairly quick succession. Q -> W -> auto attack -> E -> Q. Quick cast really helps speed things up. If you know anything about Super Smash Bros, it is kind of like a fox running vs a fox wave dashing. Sure, you can go fast without it... but wave dashing is still faster.
Last hitting is super important.
As a mid lane assassin (which is what Talon will typically be), it is important to know when and how to roam. Typically when you have pushed your lane or killed your lane opponent, roaming down bot for a gank is a great way to get some extra gold and give your bot lane some extra advantage or maybe even provide enough lane pressure to give your team a free uncontested dragon.
March 24, 2015 10:24 a.m.
I play LoL sometimes, but recently HotS has been my crack. As said above, MOBAFire is like the bible for that game. Use it. Note, if its a good and updated guide it will have all the tools and info you need for that build, which you almost memorise after a few games. Always communicate. Play with friends, or talk a LOT, there is no exception. Dont forget your pings with the G key. You will never win against a team unless you communicate like that. Never get discouraged. My team was down 20 kills, their Yi was 4 levels ahead of my whole team, and the rest where 2 or 3. Using communication and knowing our role, we won. Get a feel for 2 or 3 champions, because eventually youll get to the point of bans, thats a whole nother concept. Lastly, if you play support, back the frick off. Get them to anout 1/4 health and run when youre still in the laning phases. Your ADC needs every kill. Youre not a killing machine, youre a wall of meat. Do your role. Actually...yeah...DO YOUR ROLE! Lastly, skins are wins.
March 24, 2015 10:30 a.m.
I'm Plat 1. Add me in game on NA if you can. I'll help you out. Same username.
March 24, 2015 noon
CommanderOfBolas says... #13
My username is exactly the same on LoL as it is here. I have a friend who is level 30 (and he has many friends at his level) that I play with every now and then to learn some more.
How do you play with an unlocked camera? it seems so difficult. what does it do for me?
And a few of you mentioned attack-move. what is that?
March 24, 2015 1:14 p.m.
TheDuggernaught says... #14
Playing with a locked camera really limits the amount that you can see around you. For example, say you are purple team. If you line your camera up so that your character is in the upper right corner, you can see much further out in front of you so. Unlocked camera also allows you to look at what is going on elsewhere in the map while you are roaming, using teleport, or experiencing some "down time" from a death or a b.
attack move is an advanced technique... that really isn't too advanced. After an attack "goes through" there is an ending animation that your champion goes through that is more or less just there for aesthetics. If you enter a move command right after your champion's attack goes through, then you more or less cancel out the end animation and go onto moving. It is like L canceling in Super Smash Bros Melee. It is useful for kiting, chasing, avoiding harass... lots of stuff.
Khanye says... #2
i use mobafire.
mobafire is a good morgana list
March 24, 2015 4:31 a.m.