I Summon Dark Magician!

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Posted on Nov. 4, 2021, 2:14 p.m. by Icbrgr

What If...

Given how recently there has been I.P. crossover mania with having things like The Walking Dead and other franchise crossovers... and video games like Super Smash Brothers showing a market for people like having there favorite characters from games go toe-to-toe against one another

Do you think we could ever see other TCGs like Yu-gi-oh! or Poke'mon make there way into Magic The Gathering?

TypicalTimmy says... #2

God I hope so! Eevee is my favorite Pokemon because she teaches children that they can grow up to become whomever they want to be :3

Also she's 10/10 cute.

On a more serious note, I can see Pokemon being a SL and reprinted as Ikoria 2 creatures.

Like Gyrados being a Dragon Leviathan or Pikachu being an Elemental Rat.

November 4, 2021 5 p.m. Edited.

Icbrgr says... #3

I have always been on the fence as to Eevee or Vulpix was the cutest pokemon lol

I wonder if evolving would be made like the Mutate mechanic from Ikoria?

November 4, 2021 5:04 p.m.

legendofa says... #4

Assuming a Pokemon product is based off video game types and not card game types, I came up with this breakdown. (Focus is on equal types per color, but I think it works well as a starting point.)

: Normal, Steel, Fairy

: Water, Ice, Flying, Psychic

: Ghost, Dark, Poison

: Fire, Electric, Rock, Dragon

: Grass, Fighting, Bug, Ground

Vulpix is cutest. Ghost is best type.

I don't have as much knowledge of Yu-Gi-Oh, so I'm not going to try to break that down.

November 4, 2021 5:46 p.m.

TypicalTimmy says... #5

Fun fact: While Charizard is considered "the best" from the first set, some Alpha foils being valued at $300,000, the Pokemon Chancy was actually the one winning competitive plays.

I'm at work but what it came down to was better stats.

November 4, 2021 6 p.m.

TypicalTimmy says... #6

Charizard took 3 turns to evolve, had to discard two to deal 100 damage with Fire Spin, had a retreat cost of and Water was super strong so many Pokemon had resistance.

Chancey was a 1-turn play, same 120 HP, dealt 80 damage with no energy discard and only had a retreat of . And having no type meant nothing resisted her.

Oh, also she could prevent damage 50% of the time.

November 4, 2021 6:04 p.m.

Icbrgr says... #7

I say make charizard a variant of Glorybringer and people will love it

November 4, 2021 6:10 p.m.

TypicalTimmy says... #8

Ultimately, what it came down to is Charizard could deal 100 and go from 4x down to 2x . Even if he started at 5x , you needed a guaranteed energy drop next turn to win.

Chancey has no such restriction. And 80+80 = 160, which is less than 100+100 = 200, but both are greater than 120HP.

Both took two turns to KO, but Chancey had less to play around and was more likely to attack the next turn.

November 4, 2021 6:10 p.m.

RNR_Gaming says... #9

Would most likely depend on the profit margin. It could be interesting but they really should make sure they're either just cosmetics or the MTG equivalent is in the next up coming set.

November 4, 2021 7:28 p.m.

NinjaBunny01 says... #10

I doubt that the Pokemon company and Konami will do any mtg crossovers. Would be more geared towards non-competing card games.

November 6, 2021 8:47 p.m.

Caerwyn says... #11

To the actual question, no, this is not likely. Hasbro is not going to do a crossover with a direct competitor to Magic; it would be a bad financial choose for them to do so. They can get away with crossovers with Games Workshop (Warhammer) because, though Hasbro and Games Workship are both in the toys and games field, Warhammer/other miniature games and most of Games Workshop’s other products (paints and such) do not directly conflict with Magic, D&D (which is a completely different type of tabletop game than Warhammer), or any of Wizards/Hasbro’s other endeavours.

November 7, 2021 12:46 p.m.

TypicalTimmy says... #12

What I could see, perhaps, is what they did with King Kong. Just different enough that they can legally get away with it, especially on Ikoria.

Would not be hard to make a Boros "Rat Elemental" with lightning bolts arcing off of it. Of course, this would justifiably be so less about a Secret Lair and, again, more of an Ikoria 2 set where you have several key homages paid.

For example, we know Pokemon uses things such as the Fire Stone, Lightning Stone, Water Stone, etc. These stones aid in Pokemon evolutions. Would not be difficult for them to create something such as a "Magma Crystal", an artifact that says "Mutate costs of spells you control cost less to cast."

Or something such as;

Imprisonment Crystal

Artifact

Gain control of target creature with mana value X, then exile it. You may cast it for it's mana value as long as it remains in exile and you control Imprisonment Crystal.


Obviously the wording would need some R&D to work properly with the current rules and mechanics of the game, but this is in effect a PokeBall.

November 8, 2021 12:32 a.m.

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