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Posted on Feb. 27, 2015, 12:54 p.m. by PreZchoICE1

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Ryotenchi says... #1

OMG The Hamma comes down. o.o

Scurries off into the shadows to avoid cataclysmic dangers of godly tapped out presence.

March 31, 2015 12:23 a.m.

What are you talking about Ryotenchi?

March 31, 2015 12:24 a.m.

Ohthenoises says... #3

That's fine Ryotenchi, like I said, venting is good. I'm the last person to tell people what to do, all I can do is suggest a path for people and point out that they have cookies down the path I want you to go on. :P

That being said, keep in mind the adage of "do unto others only what you would have done unto you." (Not the Van Hellsing version please.....) Discuss the sillyness but just imagine if you were IM and saw everything that has been said.

thoapi

March 31, 2015 12:26 a.m.

Ryotenchi says... #4

Nothing relevant. Was just reading your last comment before it was closed and what not.

On another subject, if Ive posted a deck help page for a deck and the deck no longer represents those cards anymore but I would like sideboard help; would it be better to make a new one for it or necro the old one?

March 31, 2015 12:27 a.m.

xzzane says... #5

Just read everything in the thread yeago just closed. Very well stated thoughts by both Ohthenoises and CanadianShinobi. I'll try to do my part by trying to be more patient with him in the future, and try to help out without getting as frustrated as I have in the past with him.

March 31, 2015 12:29 a.m.

Ohthenoises says... #6

With that I wish you all a zzzZZZZzzzzZZZZZzzzzzzZZzzzZZzzZZZZZzzzZZzZzZzZ

March 31, 2015 12:29 a.m.

xzzane says... #7

And a happy zzzZZZZzzzzZZZZZzzzzzzZZzzzZZzzZZZZZzzzZZzZzZzZ to you too, Ohthenoises.

March 31, 2015 12:30 a.m.

Ryotenchi how old is the thread?

March 31, 2015 12:31 a.m.

GoldGhost012 says... #9

Get some sleep ye insomniac.

March 31, 2015 12:31 a.m.

Servo_Token says... #10

On another note, Guys, I traded away most of a modern robits deck (Full deck - Inkmoth Nexus and 3Mox Opal) for all of a modern merfolk deck + 3 True-Name Nemesis... Did I do good?

March 31, 2015 12:32 a.m.

xzzane says... #11

As far as economics go, I have no idea haha. But do you like playing merfolk more than affinity? If so, then I say it was a good trade.

March 31, 2015 12:34 a.m.

Servo_Token says... #12

Affinity was too easily hated on. And if there's anything about blue that I still love doing, it's trolling people with Spreading Seas whilst yelling "SPREAD EM!".

So basically it was either play Merfolk or Blue Moon, and I ain't payin' no $20 Dolla fo no Blood Moons!

March 31, 2015 12:36 a.m.

Ryotenchi says... #13

Last night old, cant get any attention on it with all thats been going on though..

I take back the making a new one idea, thats not wise..

All I really need is a down to earth rip my deck apart criticism of it, and some sideboard thoughts..

March 31, 2015 12:36 a.m.

GoldGhost012 says... #14

No, you did not do good, considering you didn't trade the Affinity deck to me!

Nah but you're probably fine. I don't know how much Legacy fish differs from Modern fish, but it's a good start if you wanted to play both.

March 31, 2015 12:36 a.m.

Ryotenchi says... #15

ThatJunkMage, was it like a 500$ affinity cookie cutter or just those cards specifically?

Did you get Vedalken Shackles at all with your new Fish?

March 31, 2015 12:38 a.m.

xzzane says... #16

Can't get rid of those blue roots so easily, eh? How competitive is Legacy merfolk compared to modern merfolk? My knowledge of legacy is paltry at best.

March 31, 2015 12:39 a.m.

Servo_Token says... #17

GoldGhost012

I threatened the guy that I was posting the robots online if he didn't trade me right then and there, so... yeah... sorry! Blame my trade partner.

The legacy deck really only needs 4 Daze, 4 True-Name Nemesis, and 4 Force of Will to be as good as it can. I already have the dazes and prot-fish, so it's probably the easiest conversion around.

March 31, 2015 12:39 a.m.

Ohthenoises says... #18

GoldGhost012 before I lay me down to sleep....

I have an affinity deck in it's entirety that I'm selling for ~$500 including sleeves and the SB.

March 31, 2015 12:40 a.m.

GoldGhost012 says... #19

To be honest, I probably wouldn't have been able to afford the Affinity lists anyway, even without Opals. My trade stock is poor.

March 31, 2015 12:41 a.m.

Servo_Token says... #20

Ryotenchi

It was a basic Ensoul Artifact list that I ripped offline. Had 2 rogue Master of Etherium chillin out in there, which was weird, but worked sometimes.

xzzane

Honestly, since changing my name, I've wanted nothing but to play blue decks in eternal formats. Mono blue Delver in legacy and pauper, blue tron and merfolk in modern, now legacy merfolk too... I bring shame upon the Orzhov Syndicate.

March 31, 2015 12:42 a.m.

GoldGhost012 says... #21

I dunno if I can afford all the $500 is the problem Ohthenoises. All I know I have for sure is $200, and that's in cash.

March 31, 2015 12:42 a.m.

Servo_Token says... #22

Also, the legacy deck is highly unpopular, but it's just as good as any other deck that runs Force of Will and resilient threats. Tier 2 at best, of course, but it's a solid meta call sometimes.

March 31, 2015 12:44 a.m.

Ohthenoises says... #23

Cash is actually preferred KEK but I have time, I've held onto it for this long.

It was actually my first modern deck back when it was, you know, budget.

March 31, 2015 12:44 a.m.

Ryotenchi says... #24

ThatJunkMage Did you say yeh needed Force of Wills or it just needs them to be good? Meaning yeh got some Force of Wills in that trade?!

March 31, 2015 12:44 a.m.

GoldGhost012 says... #25

But does it run Wastelands.

March 31, 2015 12:44 a.m.

Ohthenoises says... #26

Oh, also guys. If you haven't seen it:

Fable of two wolves.

March 31, 2015 12:45 a.m.

xzzane says... #27

The Orzhov Syndicate frowns upon your actions. Hahahaha well just play what you like, and have fun with it is what I say. So anyone have any ideas on how to get more people to play modern? The local game shop here at my college wants to start modern FNMs if he gets the people. Which would be fantastic, because I have to say, I really miss playing in paper with players beyond my casual playgroup.

March 31, 2015 12:46 a.m.

GoldGhost012 says... #28

Still I don't think sending a ton of cash like that is a good idea to just slap into an envelope and mail it on its merry way. XD

March 31, 2015 12:46 a.m.

xzzane says... #29

That's one of my friend's favorite fables, Ohthenoises. Very good message.

March 31, 2015 12:47 a.m.

Servo_Token says... #30

Ryotenchi

Sadly I did not get ay FoWs in the trade... But they're not too hard to come by, and they can always be reprinted! *Crosses fingers

And yes, it does run wasteland, which is currently being budgeted to Ghost Quarter because what's a basic land in this format? Sure, it's bad in the matchups that it's bad, but when are you going to wasteland a burn player anyway?

March 31, 2015 12:47 a.m.

Servo_Token says... #31

xzzane Hold Proxy Tournaments while having a solid stock of modern staples in the cases. That's probably the best way to start a modern scene. It takes quite a long time, but once people get the modern bug there's no going back.

March 31, 2015 12:48 a.m.

Ryotenchi says... #32

xzzane ModernMasters2015?

Otherwise, I wouldnt know how yeh would market the format to new people and those ultra competitive standard players blowing 500-600$ on a rotating deck.. and for whatever reason dont like modern. :/

March 31, 2015 12:49 a.m.

slovakattack says... #33

ThatJunkMage The difference between Quarter giving them a consolation land and Wasteland not is huge in Legacy. Just sayin.

Like, at a certain point, if you don't have the scratch, you really shouldn't be playing legacy. I get not having the budget for 10 duals, but if you can't drop 150 on a couple of wastelands at least...

March 31, 2015 12:50 a.m.

Ohthenoises says... #34

xzzane I've always believed that you have to feed both wolves in equal portions.

Big long reasoning but feeding both wolves is the only real way to prevent "the ends justify the means" behavior.

NOW I zzzz

March 31, 2015 12:51 a.m.

xzzane says... #35

That's a good idea, thanks. I'll bring it up to the shop owner and see if we can start something like that to start bringing people in. Anyways, I'm off to sleep. I've got class in the morning, and you lot know how well I function without sleep haha.

March 31, 2015 12:51 a.m.

Servo_Token says... #36

slovakattack

It's on my to-do list. I play legacy once or twice a year, so it's not a high priority.

Also, for one reason or another people are extremely unwilling to sell / trade away Wasteland. Like, if I had the trade fodder, I could get you a playset of Volcanic Island no problem, but ask for a Wasteland, and I just have no luck.

March 31, 2015 12:59 a.m.

slovakattack says... #37

ThatJunkMage: Weird. I haven't found it that difficult to get wasteland.

March 31, 2015 1:16 a.m.

JexInfinite says... #38

I just like playing control. UWRb in modern, D&T in legacy, and standard can go screw itself, even though UB and UW are pretty decent.

March 31, 2015 1:21 a.m.

JexInfinite says... #39

Ohthenoises My wolf is grey, just like my morals.

March 31, 2015 1:22 a.m.

enpc says... #40

Jex - isn't that the same as everyone else's? I doubt you'll find many people alive who fit into either of the absolutes :P

March 31, 2015 1:35 a.m.

Ryotenchi says... #41

Grrr... think Im going through a phase where my sanity wears thin...

I have this urge to jam Dark Confidant into affinity.. but why.. it cant possibly work out right?

March 31, 2015 1:39 a.m.

JexInfinite says... #42

enpc But people like to believe themselves as good, kind-hearted people, when in reality, they are ignorant and crap. An actual good person will have something to show for it, rather than meaningless claims.

I don't really think of other people, and don't pretend that I do. I acknowledge my immorality. But what makes morality? When is something morally right?

March 31, 2015 1:39 a.m.

JexInfinite says... #43

This thread is going to be real philosophical soon.

Discussion topics: moral relativity, utilitarianism, Kantianism

March 31, 2015 1:41 a.m.

enpc says... #44

Yes, some people see themselves as good. But a vast majority of people don't. Its not that they see themselves as good, but more, try to be good. It's the fact that they have set the bar above where they're currently at.

March 31, 2015 1:44 a.m.

Ryotenchi says... #45

Im off somewhere in the pointlessly evil spectrum.. Nice on the outside.. insidious and rogue-ish otherwise. :3

I wikez da roguez!

March 31, 2015 1:47 a.m.

I consider myself on the good side of things. I help people whenever I can, I try not to procrastinate, I am generally a moral person by most people's standards. I certainly have my faults, I can be selfish at times, but I generally try not to be. Not to bring religion into this, but basically I am a Christian, and I believe it is my responsibility to be a good representative of Jesus (I wish more Christians saw it that way). Anyway, that is why I try to be as good as I can be

March 31, 2015 1:51 a.m.

Ryotenchi says... #47

I see morality as more of a hindrance.. maybe its the asperger's.. maybe I misunderstand the condition... Def not blaming it though..

March 31, 2015 1:54 a.m.

enpc says... #48

Ryotenchi: Making a statement like that and actually putting that assumption to the test are two very different things.

March 31, 2015 1:57 a.m.

Ryotenchi says... #49

Doesnt understand

Im not a good person. :P I can do good things, I can be polite, everyone around me seems to think Im great..

Used to be a little thief though, was never liked often bullied. Im egotistical and self serving.

I like to help people when I dont fear being burned by them in the process..

Problem is: I always fear.

March 31, 2015 2:02 a.m.

JexInfinite says... #50

CommanderOfBolas You seem to understand what religion is about. It's not about the technicalities. It's not about whether god exists, or is Jesus actually healed people. It's about doing what you can to make a better world.

Ryotenchi Morality is inefficient. But so is corruption. Of course I want a better world, but there are definitely things that people must accept, and sacrifices that must be taken in order to accomplish that goal.

Humans, as a species, are fighting against evolution and Darwinism. I'm no advocating murder, but we should stop helping others.

March 31, 2015 2:03 a.m.

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