Atla Palani wants to be better than Mayael (Deck Help)

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Posted on Sept. 13, 2019, 11:09 a.m. by BMHKain

Atla Palani, Nest Tender

(& Yes. I KNOW the deck is not present at the current time. DX)

For a Deck that has been kicking some serious butt for years, I dunno about you, but Mayael the Anima 's days are about to equal, well, Extinction. Atla Palani is PRIME for a spiritual Replacement for Mayael. While everyone is trying to do a route in which they choose some kind of tribe; usually Dinosaurs; since ol' Atla comes, from Ixalan? God Forbid? But my route is far better; but there is still a question for this: How do I achieve this route? Mayael the Anima can easily search the Top 5 cards of your Library; which means she is shockingly limited to such a thing. Atla Palani, Nest Tender can do this by paying 2, & tap to create a 0/1 Egg, & if it dies, you get to search for more than just the top 5 cards. Just keep revealing crap until you have a creature to screw your opponents with. In my mind; WAY better that Mayael. Heck, even the fact that stuff like Goblin Bombardment , Blasting Station , Ashnod's Altar , & other crap can even benefit from this. But I've still one question: To achieve this Route, how to untap Atla Palani to use this effect over & over in Mayael's Colors? I see this CMDR as an instant Infantry of powerful creatures, but how to prefect this art? & all w/o the need of Tribal Theme, Populate, Tokens, etc. I just want Mayael 2.0++ to happen. The current deck is Mayael the Anima based. But what to use to make the dream a reality? Any ideas would be great. :D

Caerwyn says... #2

There's a pretty easy-to-assemble infinite combo with Atla that you should include in your deck--the only cards it requires to be fielded are Mirror Entity , your commander, and something that gives Atla +1/+1, be it a +1/+1 counter or a temporary buff, such as Blossoming Defense .

For the rest of the combo, you need to have in your library (not on the battlefield) Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre , a creature that does damage to an opponent as it ETBs or LTBs, and a creature that destroys permanents your opponents control as it ETBs or LTBs.

Here's how it works. You pump Atla with the counter or spell. You activate Mirror entity a billion or so times for 0. The first resolves, Mirror entity dies, Atla survives because of the boost (Mirror only changes base P/T). Atla triggers, you get the next creature, it dies when Mirror resolves, etc.

Eventually, you'll have the creature that deals damage enter and deal damage. It will die. Ulamog will eventually enter and die, shuffling your graveyard (and thus your ETB/LTB damage-dealer) back into your library, keeping the entire process going ad infinitum.

Granted, while it is guaranteed this combo will eventually win you the game if it goes off without a response, it does require you to shuffle. That random element means it is not a true loop that you can shortcut. In a tournament setting, this type of infinite combo might lead to a violation of slow play rules (akin to the Legacy Four Horsemen deck).

September 13, 2019 11:36 a.m.

JANKYARD_DOG says... #3

Thornbite Staff + Ashnod's Altar if you're into combos.

September 13, 2019 11:49 a.m.

SynergyBuild says... #4

Since when did Mayael the Anima ever 'kick some serious butt,' it was a fun casual commander always, right?

September 13, 2019 11:53 a.m.

bushido_man96 says... #5

Ashnod's Altar + Atla Palani, Nest Tender + Thornbite Staff allows you to pull all of your creatures out of your deck.

September 13, 2019 2:47 p.m.

Free_Iona says... #6

SynergyBuild i dunno man, my Mayael deck has been tormenting my spellslinging playgroup for years.

PS #mayaelforever peace out!

September 13, 2019 4:08 p.m.

BMHKain says... #7

0_o'''

Okay... That's actually some pretty good advice. I'll see what I can do later on; I already have several other things to fret about:

1: Try to find a way to support my stuff while following the following:

Command Zone Discord Banlist

Apparently what aforementioned Discord suggests?

(Potentially optional, even though I'm on a level that breaks the rules of Command Zone's Deck Doctors' Discord Section; which is ironic as Vedalken Orrery is in nearly every episode of GAME KNIGHTS even now.)

2: This will sound odd, but, I'm trying to refine each of my deck's Manabase's; in an attempt to complement such deck's color amounts; hopefully w/ stuff that enters play untapped (The last is most likely impossible; take great discretion on this.)

3: See if I can find a way to sell a box of MTG Cards while showing the contents of what to expect on CardKingdom. (Probably not.)

4: Anything else will have me to answer to someone who is nearby; Near the Fiskdale/Sturbridge MA area, & no LGS; & after a tweet from someone, I'm glad my WAL-MART (Sorry, but there was no LGS nearby.) doesn't have tampered WAR JP Products.

5: Or a part of the whole forums about Gear/Supplies.

I'll just be on my way now. Thanks for the help. :)

September 13, 2019 5 p.m.

bushido_man96 says... #8

When I first built my Dinosaur Tribal deck, I tried to run Mayael as the commander. She sucked. Her ability is too highly costed for the results you get, in my opinion. Changing her out for Gishath was the best decision I made for the deck.

September 13, 2019 5:02 p.m.

SynergyBuild says... #9

Chhris is it a cEDH metagame?

September 13, 2019 6:19 p.m.

Free_Iona says... #10

SynergyBuild haha no. I would say we play around that optimized zone around 7-9 power. But something doesnt need to be cEDH power-level to be considered good at butt-kicking

September 13, 2019 10:50 p.m.

SynergyBuild says... #11

Chhris Cool, then every deck is considered good at butt-kicking, thanks for the info.

September 14, 2019 8:16 a.m.

Free_Iona says... #12

SynergyBuild awesome I'll just go f@ck myself. pretty disrespectful attitude, man. For the record ^ ^ this guy right here is why cEDH has an image problem. See ya!

September 14, 2019 8:24 a.m.

SynergyBuild says... #13

Chhris Dude chill, I never told you your deck was bad, just I think every deck can be good, I wondered if there was a specific reason was all. Don't need to get super defensive and attack me personally.

This is my interpretation of cEDH, Why Every Commander is Competitive, which is often the opposite of usual cEDH.

September 14, 2019 10:29 a.m.

BMHKain says... #14

Guys. Relax please; I already made my decision: It's unfortunate the Mirror Entity , +1/+1, & Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre combo is going to be something nearly on level to be a Turn 2 or later something I never planned (Sorry, Caerwyn.). Though the Thornbite Staff & Ashnod's Altar cards, among any similar that could do good still. Though Ad Infinitum is too much. That said, I've other things for now; any ideas for my direction? Oh, & I'm planning to update my Superfriends Deck, but I want to find some new cards for the deck nobody thought of. That, & I plan to change Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder to a 5 Color Chaos Commander; but who?

Finally, I wonder how to conform my manabase for each deck of mine; the Lands seem off-sync.

I apologize for all this. Thanks for the help; now how to make it? After all this, I wonder who should run my last CMDR Deck? I was thinking of someone from Throne of Eldraine, but who?

September 14, 2019 5:58 p.m.

SynergyBuild says... #15

Mind for a link to your list?

September 14, 2019 6:25 p.m.

BMHKain says... #16

@SynergyBuild: If it's to make a nest of abominations,


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However, do keep to heart that it has been one hell of a mess as it was based upon a scrapped Mayael the Anima I was going to make, but found what the Ixalanian Breeder should be able to do that would outlive/outclass the Anima of the Shard of Naya.

As for Superfriends? Well, it definitely does need more room to grow alright; but, at least both Oko Walkers are just badass in my book; though maybe it's time I did replace Rowan #1 ; but what to represent, I dunno... Daretti, Ingenious Iconoclast Phail'd, & Saheeli, Sublime Artificer could've been good also, but the answer for all 3 is: a coldhearted, relentless "NO.". I wish any one of those three (Maybe the two that don't include Rowan?) has some kind of potential. Now I feel the need for a Retrace Engine Wrenn and Six , & an Artifice Engine ( Daretti, Ingenious Iconoclast or Saheeli, Sublime Artificer ) at the same time, & slots are very scarce...

Okay, I trailed off QUITE a lot, & I apologize.

But what did you mean by any chance?

September 14, 2019 7:02 p.m.

Everybody smack talking Mayael now that the egg queen is here :O I'm heart broken. But to be fair Mayael is still the queen of fatties and it seems Alta really just wants to combo to be effective. She's definitely the superior choice for someone wanting a more competitive atmosphere but I wouldn't say she dethroned Mayael as the Naya smash deck by any means. I cant think of many decks that win in cedh by launching huge creatures anyway.

October 21, 2019 10:16 p.m.

bushido_man96 says... #18

I tried Mayael a long time before Atla, and was never impressed with her. She's just too slow and mana intensive. Gishath is so much better than Mayael is, even if it means going tribal.

October 22, 2019 12:35 a.m. Edited.

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