The devil's in the details: Help with Zur EDH

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Posted on Dec. 10, 2017, 11:01 a.m. by Suns_Champion

Hello! I want to thank everyone who has helped me so far; I've gotten a lot of great feedback and my deck has improved a lot.

I realize I might be flooding the forums a bit so this'll be my last post for a while.

As stated, the deck has come a long way and has really found it's shape. Now its all down to the nitty-gritty details, so all opinions are welcome!


IntruZur Alarm | Zur EDH

Commander / EDH* Suns_Champion

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First off, I need to find a slot for Necropotence. Obviously it's very good so basically any spot, but still, need to find my weak links.

Still deciding between hard tutors like Razaketh's Rite and Demonic Collusion OR more specific tutors like Perplex or Trinket Mage.

Also concerned about if I have too much high cmc recursion and if I should cut it down. Perhaps find more recursion that goes with Zur?

Need some more boardwipes but don't know what section to to take out of for space.

Should I cut the Stonybrook Schoolmaster Combo altogether? I like it though...

Thanks in advance for any help!

redkhan says... #2

My personal opinion is that the hard tutors are king. Being able to grab anything and have it not be revealed information is really strong.

December 10, 2017 11:29 a.m.

redkhan says... #3

I'll admit I didn't look very closely but unless you have an outlet like Exsanguinate the three myr don't seem as powerful and infinite mana doesn't seem as useful.

December 10, 2017 11:39 a.m.

Suns_Champion says... #4

redkhan thanks for the response! I see your point about the tutors, but since I'm running budget, 5 cmc tutors it makes the issue more debatable. Especially with cards like Muddle the Mixture and Perplex, which double as very useful counterspells. So I'm unsure.

Would you suggest I add Exsanguinate or Torment of Hailfire, or cut the Myr? If cut, than for what? More rocks or something else?

December 10, 2017 12:09 p.m.

redkhan says... #5

I really like Torment of Hailfire so you could probably swap out both of the non-black myr for Torment and Exsanguinate.

December 10, 2017 12:16 p.m.

Suns_Champion says... #6

Sorry folks! Messed up on the deck tag!

Anyway. redkhan, that'd cut me down to 8 ramp cards... but I'll definitely think about it.

December 10, 2017 12:25 p.m.

redkhan says... #7

Suns_Champion since I had taken a short break from magic because of school when I restarted I've been trying to be a bit more competitive to keep up with my meta. So 2 drop dorks that only tap for 1 mana just seem sub par to to me now. If I come up with any other swaps you could make I'll let you know.

December 10, 2017 1:21 p.m.

I do agree that generating mana during the combo is not all that useful, but 2-cmc ramp that lets you play Zur a turn early is always good.

I'm also not sold on the 5-cmc tutors, but I'm not sure if there are any better options... Dark Petition might be better for occasionally generating some mana (and fixing it to black if that's what you need). Beseech the Queen might also be a better option. You'd probably never get the chance to cast it for 3, but a slightly worse Diabolic Tutor might be better than one of the other options. Sidisi, Undead Vizier is another possibility, and can be recurred via Karmic Guide.

I think Altar of Dementia might be better than Altar of the Brood. While costing another mana, it works the same in your Intruder Alarm combos, and also works with Fiend Hunter + Sun Titan and Karmic Guide + Reveillark . Finally, I think Animate Dead is probably a great inclusion. You can tutor it with Zur to recur your stuff, and it can combo with Sun Titan.

December 12, 2017 5:45 a.m.

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