Zombie help

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Posted on Sept. 5, 2022, 4:14 p.m. by Mr-White

I need help with my Wilhelt, the Rotcleaver deck I'm gonna cleave you. I was trying a to take advantage of a mill subtheme and then cast Rise of the Dark Realms as a wincon but I can never get anything going, I never get any kind of board presence and I always run out of gas by turn 4-5.

Can anyone help me tune it up a bit (I'd like to keep it at a casual power level nothing to powerful and the mill theme can go idc).

Thanks.

bushido_man96 says... #2

Tainted Adversary seems a bit mana intensive to really get good results from. How many tokens do you usually get when you cast it? And is the effect worth that much mana investment? I don't like Stitchwing Skaab, either, especially when you talk about running out of gas. It will only contribute to that problem if you don't have cards to discard, and you don't want to discard better cards to play that one.

I'd consider cutting Spell Swindle for a cheaper CMC counterspell, or a straight removal spell. I think you want to be pretty aggressive with how you spend your mana in this deck, and holding up 5 mana to counter a spell is counterintuitive to that strategy.

I'd drop the mill theme: Dread Summons, Drown in Dreams, Maddening Cacophony, Peer into the Abyss, Psychic Corrosion maybe even Telemin Performance. I would add card draw spells in those spots. Night's Whisper, Ambition's Cost, and Sign in Blood will always draw you cards, regardless of board state. Altar's Reap, Village Rites, and Vampiric Rites are good draw sources when you have a board state. I'd recommend pushing your ramp to 10 spells, and then you should be off an running.

Good luck going forward with this deck.

September 5, 2022 6:24 p.m.

Yokaiinu says... #3

Zombies are honestly one of my favorite tribes.

If it's not too much power for your playgroup, consider a decent sac outlet and Gravecrawler. It can add very nice synergies when you cast it, including infinite combos with the precon included Rooftop Storm, Diregraf Colossus, and Diregraf Captain. All around a great Zombie card for death triggers, Zombie cast triggers etc.

I honestly wouldn't focus too much on the mill aspect. Instead, focus on creatures, tokens and protection for those things. Cheap counterspells go a long way. With things like Endless Ranks of the Dead and Diregraf Colossus, creating bodies is a breeze usually. Though this is just stuff from the precon. The precon by itself is a great starting point. Cleaver Skaab can create an extra Diregraf Captain or Diregraf Colossus which nets value, threat and board presence in one move. Graf Harvest is an amazing Zombie card to keep opponents wary of you. DeathBaron solidifies an offensive position for you. A nice little combo from the precon to consider is Cleaver Skaab + Gisa and Geralf . This let's you make cheeky tokens of the same non-token Zombie multiple times. Great use on Colossus, Deathbaron, Cemetery Reaper, Captain or other important zombies. Even better on Fleshbag Marauder.

I think that's all I got right now. I have the precon and a mono black Zombie deck on my profile if you want to check them out. The precon will soon be an upgraded version.

September 7, 2022 10:41 p.m.

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