Archetype Name and Card Recommendations
Commander (EDH) forum
Posted on Jan. 15, 2025, 9:56 p.m. by Unlife
I'm planning on possibly rebuilding my Saskia the Unyielding
deck (again) and I've been considering a few ideas, one of which being cards that I give to opponents, but that can't attack me. I was wondering if there was a term for these sorts of cards, and if anyone had any recommendations for cards that could fit into the deck. I want to see how many there are before adding goad effects. The deck is , and so far I've found:
Xantcha, Sleeper Agent, Sleeper Agent, Alexios, Deimos of Kosmos, Rite of the Raging Storm, and Varchild, Betrayer of Kjeldor
Thanks in advance
griffstick says... #3
You could just make it hard to attack you with cards like Ghostly Prison and force people to attack with cards like Fumiko the Lowblood
January 16, 2025 5 a.m. Edited.
RiotRunner789 says... #4
If you had both Fumiko the Lowblood and Ghostly Prison on the board, the end result would be that your opponents not being forced to attack.
They would just choose you as the player their attacking then not pay into Ghostly Prison, since Fumiko or even goad, can't force them to.
January 16, 2025 6:16 a.m.
RiotRunner789 says... #5
On the topic, you could run Blim, Comedic Genius (though he needs decent support such as liches).
There are also at least a few auras that buff creatures (yours or opponents), don't have goad but do have 'this creature can't attack you' clause.
January 16, 2025 6:24 a.m.
I don't think there's a specific name for these cards. There's only four of them (not counting Sleeper Agent, which can attack freely), spread over more than 25 years, and they're generally specific to the Commander format. They're the "someone else gets them but they can't attack me" cards.
Sower of Discord + Saskia the Unyielding basically makes all your opponents take one person's combat damage.
January 16, 2025 2:10 p.m.
plakjekaas says... #7
Don't forget about Slicer, Hired Muscle Flip and Assault Suit
January 16, 2025 2:25 p.m.
TheoryCrafter says... #8
A card with a similar effect to Varchild, Betrayer of Kjeldor is Combat Calligrapher. Though you can balance the drawback a bit by adding Blood Seeker to your deck.
Other cards I think may work the way yer looking for are Bloodvial Purveyor and Jolene, the Plunder Queen.
There's also the "Vow of..." cycle. The ones relevant to your deck are:: Vow of Duty, Vow of Lightning, Vow of Malice, Vow of Torment, and Vow of Wildness. Another Aura that works like that is Spectral Grasp.
Also, if you really wanna have some fun, there's also Jinxed Choker, Jinxed Idol, Jinxed Ring and Sleeper Agent. And don't forget the Demonic Pact+Harmless Offering combo!
I hope this helps. Thank you for reading me out. Happy Hunting!
January 16, 2025 7:04 p.m.
seshiro_of_the_orochi says... #9
"Hot potatoe" always felt an appropriate name for me.
Btw, Crown of Doom.
January 18, 2025 8:19 a.m.
Thank you to all for the recommendations, I recognize a lot of the cards, but there are some new ones on there.
Looking at the options, I think it may end up being a goad deck with some other bits and pieces thrown in.
I am also completely stealing the name "Hot Potato"
January 21, 2025 10:24 p.m.
seshiro_of_the_orochi says... #11
You're welcome! :D btw, would you mind posting a link to Saskia once there is one? I have a copy of her without a proper idea to build her and would love inspiration.
January 22, 2025 12:30 a.m.
seshiro_of_the_orochi Sure, here you are. The first is the one I've been playing up until now, the next was an idea I proxied up for testing. The third is what I just put together as a concept, though I may have an idea for a 4th now.
Lordeh says... #2
Mechanically the closest I know of is Goad....
January 15, 2025 10:27 p.m.