best Kiki general
Commander (EDH) forum
Posted on Oct. 22, 2016, 7:08 p.m. by _person_
So, i'm working on a deck with Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker and Deceiver Exarch as a win con. I haven't started building the deck yet, but basically it mills infinitely, then flashbacks Dread Return for Goblin Dark-Dwellers for Victimize for kiki and exarch, and I can't decide what general to use. Any ideas?
Gidgetimer says... #5
If you want to go all in combo you can run Maelstrom Wanderer with just the two creatures and all the man lands in your colors. It isn't what one would call a good deck, but it is good for a laugh.
October 22, 2016 9:03 p.m.
Oh Sedris, the Traitor King hardcore.
I run a grixis splinter twin edh deck just cause I love how the archetype worked in modern. Basically you get tons of good card selection loot effects, cheap and efficient reanimation stuff, great tutors, fantastic counter magic, and effective control elements.
Stuff like Intuition and Yawgmoth's Will are nightmares. Half the time, I go for end step Exarch, allow it to be countered, and reanimate both it and Kiki the following turn.
The deck is incredibly redundant and resilient. On the other hand, it's game plan is incredibly predictable once you've seen it a few times.
October 22, 2016 10:54 p.m.
You can unearth your combo pieces and just win win on the spot with that general
October 23, 2016 2:46 a.m.
The deck also runs relatively few creatures, so a 5/5 can block well. But yeah, sedris can reanimate the combo pieces when needed.
October 23, 2016 10:01 a.m.
So your saying, use sedris as a backup win-con if dread return or victimize gets countered?
October 23, 2016 2:57 p.m.
He is in the right colors for what your trying to do and he could be a primary or back up way to go off. I'm sure there are other combos to look for with him, so that way you have different ways of winning.
October 23, 2016 3:20 p.m.
Ok. I'll probably wait till I see what commander 2016 gives us, and then start building the deck.
October 23, 2016 3:29 p.m.
I've been forced to run out Sedris as a blocker before. So far, I haven't been forced on the beatdown plan, but it's nice to have a general that can. I've had to send Arcanis the Omnipotent into the red zone to win games before in another deck. Don't discount it.
October 23, 2016 6:55 p.m.
UpperDeckerTaco says... #14
You should also use Buried Alive in your deck to get Kiki and Exarch in your graveyard faster. You could essentially just turn 1, Land+Sol Ring. Turn 2, Land+Demonic Tutor for Buried Alive and Vampiric Tutor for Victimize. Turn 3, Land+any 1-4 drop creature. Turn 4, Land+Buried Alive+Victimize = combo win. I am sure there are much faster ways of doing this. This is just an example.
October 24, 2016 9:57 p.m.
Only problem is that you wouldn't be able to get Narcomoeba, Prized Amalgam and Ichorid for the dead return. But, if you have victimize in your hand, you don't need dread return.
October 24, 2016 10:21 p.m.
so, would any of the commanders from commander 2016 work?
October 27, 2016 2:30 p.m.
Eh not really. None of them really support the strategy. Ydris could but I don't think he'd be as good as sedris for what you're trying to do.
julianjmoss says... #2
thraximunder
October 22, 2016 7:38 p.m.