Non-Dimir cEDH Combos
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Posted on Oct. 11, 2020, 11:26 p.m. by Omniscience_is_life
I've recently wanted to build a high-powered Naya deck, and I wanted to know what the best combos are in the RGW colors. This all is going to be completely new to me, so if you think the combo is really complex I'd appreciate you explaining it, thanks!
SynergyBuild says... #3
In cEDH, the best non-dimir combos in Naya are as follows:
Underworld Breach + Lion's Eye Diamond + Wheel of Fortune
Goblin Recruiter for Conspicuous Snoop & Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker, with the last of infinite snoop tokens copying the recruiter to get a Mogg Fanatic
Dockside Extortionist + Emiel the Blessed/Temur Sabertooth
Ashaya, Soul of the Wild + Quirion Ranger/Scryb Ranger + Mana Dork tapping for 2+
plakjekaas also showed off some old combos for casual cEDH if you want more options!
October 12, 2020 1:27 a.m.
You can do the old Food Chain combo with Squee, the Immortal or Eternal Scourge.
October 12, 2020 1:30 a.m.
plakjekaas says... #5
I'm a fan of monocolored decks, those were the first that came to mind '^^
October 12, 2020 1:32 a.m.
Nightblad3 says... #6
I saw someone get a ton of scute swarm triggers with Ashaya, Soul of the Wild and Scute Swarm nonsense. A favorite of mine that's just going to go insanely wide but not infinite is Lithoform Engine, Iridescent Hornbeetle, Scute Swarm, Cathars' Crusade, and Anointed Procession. Go wide with scute swarm, go tall with crusade, and on your end step go even wider and taller with hornbeetle. Procession doubles the tokens you get from scute swarm which means more counters from crusade. Lithoform engine will double your hornbeetle trigger and go even more nuts. If you want to go even more insane, cards like Branching Evolution, Doubling Season, and Conclave Mentor exist to just have an obscene board.
October 12, 2020 1:39 a.m.
Nightblad3 says... #7
That combo is pure jank and will only be doable with lots of tutors and/or redundant effects. It's better in Historic because you can have multiple copies of things in your deck, and therefore easier to put together.
October 12, 2020 1:41 a.m.
I saw a game once where an Atla Palani, Nest Tender
deck won on like turn three from using a Mutagenic Growth on Atla and then activating Mirror Entity for 0 an arbitrary number of times cycling through their deck getting infinite ETB triggers on Purphoros, God of the Forge. They had the legal Shuffle Eldrazi in there to keep shuffle the graveyard back in. It was fun to watch but probably wouldn't be consistent enough.
October 12, 2020 10:30 a.m.
TriusMalarky says... #9
Zirda, the Dawnwaker has some infinite mana loops with Basalt Monolith and Grim Monolith although with it being colorless I'd say you have to build around it.
While it's not cEDH until I get the proxies set up for cEDH-specific play, I've been brewing Rocky and Bullwinkle with Zirda as companion and Jegantha, the Wellspring as the commander. It's an infinite mana based combo deck, although I still need to work on things to use Zirda mana on.
October 12, 2020 11 a.m.
A huge Naya combo that uses 2 cards and the right land mix:
Temur Sabertooth + Zacama, Primal Calamity: Infinite colored mana, Infinite colorless mana, Infinite damage to creatures, Infinite artifact and infinite enchantment destruction, Infinite ETB triggers and LTB triggers. Lastly, Infinite life gain. Just need the right land count.
Can also be done with Sanctum of Eternity + Zacama, Primal Calamity as well.
October 12, 2020 3:48 p.m. Edited.
Omniscience_is_life says... #11
MagicMarc I do love Zacama combos. Conqueror's Galleon Flip and Paleoloth are the two different combos I use with him/her/it/they/idk it's a fictional dinosaur
October 12, 2020 3:56 p.m.
For some of the Atla combos you can also do stuff like the following:
Ashnod's Altar + Atla Palani, Nest Tender + Purphoros, God of the Forge + Thornbite Staff. Or
Ashnod's Altar + Atla Palani, Nest Tender + Impact Tremors + Thornbite Staff. Or
Atla Palani, Nest Tender + Purphoros, God of the Forge + Thornbite Staff + Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre. Or
Atla Palani, Nest Tender + Marauding Raptor + Thornbite Staff + Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre.
You can optionally replace the damage trigger card or the shuffling cards with stuff like: Inferno Titan, Terror of the Peaks, and Kozilek, Butcher of Truth.
October 12, 2020 4:30 p.m. Edited.
dingusdingo says... #15
Temur Sabertooth + Zacama, Primal Calamity works by repeatedly bouncing the Zacama to abuse the "untap all lands when it enters the battlefield" ability on Zacama. It will require 11 mana from lands to break even, or 12 mana from lands to create a positive infinite mana loop. With the very high land requirement, it is not a good inclusion for competitive edh unless Zacama is your commander.
I recommend looking at infinite combos in already existing cedh decks in those colors. Synergy has recommend some competitive level combos, but I can contribute some more. Off the top of my head, I can recommend some:
Temur Sabertooth + Dockside Extortionist = Generate infinite mana, requires opponent to have the correct board state, which they almost always do
Big Dork + Untap effect = Infinite mana. Look at Priest of Titania, Selvala, Heart of the Wilds, Bloom Tender, or Marwyn, the Nurturer for your big dork needs. Look at Umbral Mantle and Staff of Domination for your untapping needs, honorable mention to Sword of the Paruns which I don't recommend.
Underworld Breach has lots of great combos, most of the playable ones are in mono red for Naya colors. Shameless self plug, check out my EDH Underworld Breach combo guide here, I cover card choices and how to pilot the combos in detail here - https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-underworld-breach-edh-combo-guide/
Another option, but definitely not a top tier combo, is Boonweaver Giant + Pattern of Rebirth + Sac Outlet. This combo works by abusing creatures that return Boonweaver from the graveyard to play to continue pulling creatures from your library until you have assembled your actual winning combo. Generally you pull Karmic Guide -> return Boonweaver -> sac Boonweaver to fetch Fiend Hunter -> Fiend your Guide -> Sac Fiend to return Guide, which returns Boonweaver -> Fetch Reveillark which returns Guide + Fiend Hunter to loop to pull all creatures from your deck. You can find a very well detailed guide for this combo here - https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh/multiplayer-commander-decklists/621075-karador-boonweaver-combo The guide is for Abzan colors, but the core of the combo is GW and can easily be adapted to Naya colors, especially with red creature sac outlets like Goblin Bombardment. This is a fun combo, high powered but not competitive, and will blow the minds of most players who haven't seen it in action before.
October 12, 2020 4:33 p.m.
VampDemigod says... #16
Omniscience_is_life That doesn’t work. You have to select the target when Zacama ETBs. You can’t target him after sacrificing him. Unless you somehow already have a copy of him on the battlefield (I think only Lithoform Engine would work there). Does that explanation make sense?
October 12, 2020 5:54 p.m.
Omniscience_is_life says... #17
Aah! I’m forgetting pieces left and right! Usually I add Nyxbloom Ancient to get enough mana, and I cycle the ancient through the bin to get Zacama back. So sorry, I’m garbage at explaining combos :)
plakjekaas says... #2
Rest in Peace + Helm of Obedience is a classic one that mills out a player (cards cannot go to the graveyard, so Helm will never mill either X cards or a creature to take)
Twinflame or Heat Shimmer + Dualcaster Mage can make infinite hasty 2/2 human wizards if you keep copying the original spell with the token copies that enter the battlefield. Similar combo's can be achieved with Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker and a nonlegendary creature that can untap it, like Zealous Conscripts.
Aggravated Assault + Sword of Feast and Famine is an easy recipe for as many combat steps as you like, Godo, Bandit Warlord or Combat Celebrant+ Helm of the Host does something similar.
October 12, 2020 12:59 a.m.