Top ten most toxic commanders.
Commander (EDH) forum
Posted on Oct. 29, 2024, 9:04 p.m. by Bookrook
These are, in my opinion, the top ten most toxic commanders to play against. The ones where you get teamed up on more than the guy with the turn one sol ring.
Atraxa, Praetors' Voice. Infect infect infect infect. Also gets toxic points for being an infect commander.
If they have any kind of token doubler or nonlegendary cloner, you might as well skip your untap step. Once my friend had an Essix, Fractal Bloom out with a Mirror Box.
Numot the Devestator Land destruction. Need I say more?
Nobody cares about the lantern. Everybody cares about their creatures going up for adoption.
Goes infinite with a ham sandwich. Pray WOTC never makes a blue version of it.
The Beamtown Bullies I’m guilty of playing with this deck. Who new there were so many cards with very big downsides. *cough cough Leveler
Do you want people to play with you?
Kaervek, the Spiteful, Night of Souls' Betrayal, and the million other cards that give all creatures -1/-1 until end of turn exist.
All the Phyrexian praetors (but mostly Sheoldred, the Apocalypse)
Card draw is good in commander. Sheoldred deals damage to your opponents when they draw cards. Plus,Peer into the Abyss either instakills an opponent or gives you 30 life and 40 cards.
Just like sheoldred, but you get access to red for wheels and handsize burn spells, and blue for being blue.
*honarable mention to The Infamous Cruelclaw decks that play 99 lands and Worldfire.
I don’t know how I forgot about toxril. I feel like narset runs into the same problems as atraxa as if you play it as a spellslinger commander. Toxril probably edges out Kiki jiki for sixth place.
October 30, 2024 12:07 a.m.
As a moderately dedicated Vampire player, I submit Edgar Markov. While he can be played around and he's pretty predictable, he throws around value like it's going out of style just by existing. Board wipes are somewhere between a mild annoyance and completely irrelevant, and he's got all the right colors for that. And when he does get around to hitting the field, he takes it over immediately. Pretty much no matter how you build him, he's gonna be drawing heat.
October 30, 2024 12:26 a.m.
seshiro_of_the_orochi says... #5
Maha with no explanation made me chuckle. Ever wanted to play a fair Maha? Try Horobi, Death's Wail.
October 30, 2024 1:34 a.m.
"Goes infinite with a ham sandwich" can't help but think of the nitpicking nerds on that one : ) Such a great magic channel!
Personally, I'd go with Rograkh, Son of Rohgahh just because of partner. If it was a solo commander I think it would be an awesome card, but a 0 cost partner commander is such a free choice in deck building, like pre-nerf companion, but it also turns on Fierce Guardianship and Mox Amber and things like that, or can be a 0 mana thing the deck can sac.
October 30, 2024 7:45 a.m.
Niko9 while Rogakh is certainly a good card, it doesn’t have that same kind of thing where people automatically just team up on you and groan when you pull it out.
seshiro_of_the_orochi the description for maha is right below it. I was considering getting a Horobi, Death's Wail deck when Nadu, Winged Wisdom was legal.
legendofa Edgar Markov is just a very good card in general. If anybody ever brings one out, I make sure to sleeve up my Illness in the Ranks.
October 30, 2024 5:49 p.m.
Bookrook That's really true, maybe Rogakh is less toxic and more, why does this card exist?
Maybe Urza, High Lord Artificer? The combination of Winter Orb effects and Time Warp effects can be pretty lame to play against. Staxing down the table and then having those stax pieces tap for mana to go into extra turns is definitely the most solitaire deck I've ever played against in EDH.
October 30, 2024 6:15 p.m.
I see your point about Urza, but i feel like it isn’t as toxic as the other cards on the list. If your playing high enough power level that your playing against an Urza deck, your deck should be equally as powerful or combo-y.
October 30, 2024 6:54 p.m.
Basically any commander that is kill on sight or we can't let it resolve or turn 0 its 3 against 1 because we know if you are allowed to breath we won't breathe.
I have never been in a pod with someone playing Narset, Enlightened Master and it be fine.
October 30, 2024 9:52 p.m.
Niko9 I agree Urza! Don’t know how I forgot about that. With the ability to go stax and get a body to polymorph, it just gains too much advantage at any power level, and can easily break parity
October 30, 2024 10:14 p.m.
seshiro_of_the_orochi says... #12
How could I miss that? :D Still would've been funny.
I adore my Horobi deck. It's such a cute explosive murder machine.
October 31, 2024 5:13 a.m.
MindAblaze says... #13
I personally love it when my Nekusar deck turns a four player pod into an archenemy game. Come at me bro.
Yay for permission spells in Grixis.
November 3, 2024 4:30 p.m.
hyalopterouslemur says... #14
If we're going after infect, no Saskia the Unyielding
? Doesn't have to be an infect deck; I've played Saskia as midrange, tokens, or reanimator before with no problems. But I've also played Saskia as infect, and it's easy to see how those damage doublers and combat tricks add up.
Personally, I consider Nekusar toxic, but more as a group hug commander than from the wheels/damage. Group hug isn't bad on its own, but if any player is playing combo, you're just enabling the combo player.
Noxid05 says... #2
Good list, but Atraxa, Praetors' Voice I feel needs an asterisk as +1/+1 counters builds or even super friends aren't nearly as toxic to play against as infect.
Personally, I think Narset, Enlightened Master deserves a spot on the list, just free casting extra turn, and extra combat steps repeatedly.
I also think there could be a debate for Toxrill, the Corrosive on this list
October 29, 2024 11:21 p.m.