Amy, the Black Raven and Secret Seal of the Black Ravens (FINISHED)
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Posted on Jan. 8, 2022, 10:24 a.m. by SoulTrasher626
Amy, Leader of the Black Ravens Show
Amy, the Black Raven (With the help of seshiro_of_the_orochi) Show
Secret Seal of the Black Ravens (By-product through the help of seshiro_of_the_orochi) Show
Here is an idea for a Dimir Rogue - Mill Commander I'm working on, and I'd love to hear your thoughts on this Commander, as well as any improvement or better idea you might have.
To say a little about the character:
She is a woman who masters mind magic and she uses this to bring information or to guide paths. To this end, she has hired many talented thieves and founded a thieves' guild with them (The Black Ravens). In combat, she uses her magic by using a scythe, which with each contact continues to disperse the memories of the enemy and absorb them in order to break them. Her goal is to collect knowledge about what was created for the fight, so that she can preserve it and the knowledge is no longer misused.
SoulTrasher626 says... #3
I made some changes based on your suggestion. Whereby the most important ones are loyalty and, in the case of the ultimate, the board wipe.
The name: Amy, the Black Raven
Ultimate: -8 Destroy all non-Rogue creatures, exile each opponent’s graveyard and create an emblem with: “Whenever a card is put into a opponents graveyard, exile it instead.”
Loyalty: 3
What do you think of these changes?
January 8, 2022 12:25 p.m.
SoulTrasher626 says... #4
Another idea would be:
Ultimate: -8 Exile each opponent’s graveyard. Create an emblem with: “At the beginning of each opponents upkeep, that player mills ten cards. Whenever a card is put into a opponents graveyard, exile it instead.” and "At the beginning of your Upkeep, you can cast a spell of each opponents exile without paying its manacosts."
January 8, 2022 12:41 p.m.
seshiro_of_the_orochi says... #5
Like it a lot better with these changes. After re-reading the card, I found some wording issues:
The -3 should read as follows:
You may cast a spell from among cards your opponents own in graveyards or exile this turn, and you may spend mana as though it were mana of any color to cast those spells.
The ultimate has parts from two different ways of doing graveyard exile. There are two ways of doing it:
Destroy all non-Rogue creatures, then exile each opponent’s graveyard. You get an emblem with “Whenever a card is put into a opponents graveyard, exile it.
OR
Destroy all non-Rogue creatures, then exile each opponent’s graveyard. You get an emblem with “Whenever a card would be put into a opponents graveyard, exile it instead.
Finally, I'm not sure if it would have to be "Exile each card from each opponent's graveyard.". The wording on Rest in Peace would suggest that.
P.S.: The last suggestion for the ultimate seems pretty powerful, but a little clunky. It is in line with your character description, though.
January 8, 2022 12:53 p.m.
SoulTrasher626 says... #6
I'm wavering a little between the two ultimates. Either the final coup of the first or the absolute mind control of the second. where I think about how to write the second one.
-8 Destroy all non-Rogue creatures, then exile each opponent’s graveyard. You get an emblem with “Whenever a card would be put into a opponents graveyard, exile it instead."
or:
-8(-8 to powerfull for this?) Exile each opponent’s graveyard. You get an emblem with “At the beginning of each opponents upkeep, exile the top ten cards of that oppenents libary. Whenever a card would be put into a opponents graveyard, exile it instead." and "At the beginning of your Upkeep, you can cast a spell of each opponents exile without paying its manacosts."
January 8, 2022 1:03 p.m.
seshiro_of_the_orochi says... #7
Go for what feels better for you. Maybe turn the other into a big sorcery?
January 8, 2022 1:39 p.m.
SoulTrasher626 says... #8
Then I think I'll do it this way:
Amy, the Black Raven Show
And from the other idea I make the following:
Secret Seal of the Black Ravens Show
In any case, I thank you very much for your help.
seshiro_of_the_orochi says... #2
I like the general design. The +1 seems fine both for synergy and protection, and it has good flavour. Being a rogue team leader that brings friends and steals stuff is always cool.
Here are points to improve upon:
I don't like the name. Ok, there obviously is a group of persons called "Black Ravens", and she's their leader. Something such as "Amy, the Black Raven" would be way cooler while not deing that obvious in what it tells us.
The -3 is powerful, but fitting. I think it might actually be too powerful that you could play her, -3 her to steal a spell, and then have her stick around. If you look at the existing PW commanders, they tend to have minor "small" abilities and are more about synergy. That's because it's very easy to gain obscene value off of planeswalkers, and you'd even have access to this one at any time. Maybe have her start at 3 loyalty? That way, she'd die if you cast her to simply steal a spell?
The ultimate seems underpowered. I see the synergy with the -3, but you could have that ability for a lot cheaper. Maybe have it give you that emblem plus something splashy when you activate it?
January 8, 2022 12:14 p.m.