Card Idea? But what color and mana cost?
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Posted on Aug. 20, 2015, 1:35 a.m. by dbpunk
Valor's Gift
Enchantment
When ~ enters the battlefield, put X +1/+1 on each creature, where X is that creature's mana cost.
Each creature's base power and toughness is 0/0.
Creature spells gain "As this creature enters the battlefield, put X +1/+1 counters on it where X is this creature's converted mana cost."
MagicalHacker says... #4
Why not just word it like this:
Other creatures have base power and toughness X/X, where X is its converted mana cost.
August 20, 2015 1:50 a.m.
M a g i c a l H a c k e r - I have a feeling dbpunk is going for some sort of +1/+1 counters shenanigans. Also, your card I would put in mono-
. It's a completely different set of abilities.
August 20, 2015 2 a.m.
I was going for more +1/+1 shenanigans rather than just that. Mostly because they're generally more fun to abuse with stuff like Kalonian Hydra, Triskelion, Mikaeus, the Unhallowed, etc.
August 20, 2015 2:40 a.m.
It would probably be 
seems very simic like as for cost I'd say 
or 
depending on if it affects opponents creatures as well or not. The higher cost being if it affects all sides.
Side note how would that work with say the theros gods.
August 20, 2015 3:21 a.m.
I see it as a way of getting more out of creatures with ETB effects. Most of them are overcosted for the stats, take Separatist Voidmage for instance. Now you get a bounce and a 4/4 creature. How would this interact with creatures which come with a fixed number of +1/+1 counters on them anyway? Do they get an additional set of counters based on CMC?
August 20, 2015 7:28 a.m.
weisemanjohn says... #9
I think it should be "creatures enter the battlefield with x +1/+1 counters where x is their cmc."
As far as Theros gods, they would get +1/+1 counters if they were online, but if they ever go online after this card is played, they would immediately die from 0 toughness.
I think the +1/+1 counters would stack with creatures that enter with them (hydras, graft creatures, etc)
Definitely a spell as the P/T has a replace effect () and etb with +1/+1s where bigger is better ()
This is a super powerful card imo,
August 20, 2015 9:24 a.m.
I'm leaning towards weisemanjohn with regards to the mana cost. It should probably be around 
or 
.
August 20, 2015 11:31 a.m.
Note: this would stack with hydras and creatures with +1/+1 counter effects (for example, if you payed 
for Primordial Hydra, it'd would enter with 10 +1/+1 counters) and the gods coming online after this card is in play would die. The main things that would die are things that become creatures after its played (such as the gods and cards like Myth Realized or any enchantment turned creature when dealing with Starfield of Nyx).
As such, I'd say that doing it as would be appropriate now that I think about it.
Thanks for all the help!
JWiley129 says... #2
Sounds Green or probably Simic, although you need to reword the last ability. As is, the creatures will die on ETB as they'll be 0/0's. It needs to read "Creature spells gain 'As this creature enters the battlefield, put X +1/+1 counters on it where X is this creature's converted mana cost.'"
August 20, 2015 1:38 a.m.