Dreniel, Dark Allurance

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Posted on April 7, 2022, 3:27 p.m. by Ashdust

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TypicalTimmy says... #2

Could I get a rules lawyer in here? I think I understand the lines of resolution but I want to be sure.

When Dreniel attacks, the attack trigger goes on the stack. You discard your hand and draw three cards.

Now, the act of discarding puts the impulse draw (exiling a card from the library with the ability to cast it that turn) on the stack.

But you still need to draw your three cards.

So do you, (I think it's this one?)

  • Discard your hand
  • Draw three cards
  • Exile the top card of your library

Or do you,

  • Discard your hand
  • Exile the top card of your library
  • Draw three cards
April 9, 2022 1:09 p.m.

TypicalTimmy says... #3

Also great value design. Very powerful, for sure. You can make use of Madness, Delirium and Threshold very easily, as well as Flashback and Retrace.

Or just a big ole Timmy monster deck.

Or put several infinite combos in and use the triggers to filter a bunch of cards each turn.

Lots of possibilities. Well done.

April 9, 2022 1:12 p.m.

Ashdust says... #4

Thank you much.

Order is Discard, Exile, Draw. I think that's the order?

April 9, 2022 6:01 p.m.

TypicalTimmy says... #5

Given that the discard and draw are both tied to the same trigger, I'm pretty certain it's discard-draw-exile

What's confusing me is that the exile is tied to draw. So as 1/2 of the first ability resolves, it triggers the second ability and puts the trigger at the top of the stack.

I don't believe stack ordering interrupts other stack interactions during their process of resolving, but this one is confusing me because you now have something above an item being resolved, as it is currently being resolved.

April 9, 2022 6:25 p.m.

Ashdust says... #6

Maybe it would be less confusing if I just wrote, "Whenever you attack, discard your hand. Whenever you discard one or more cards, exile the top card of your library, then draw 3 cards"

April 10, 2022 3:07 p.m.

TypicalTimmy says... #7

I think because discard/draw is the same trigger, it looks like this.

  • You attack
  • Discard/Draw trigger on stack
  • Discard/Draw resolves
  • Exile trigger sees you discarded
  • Exile goes on stack
  • Exile trigger resolves

But clearly this is confusing, at least me. So yeah I think it could be cleaned up a bit.

April 10, 2022 3:37 p.m.

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