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Posted on March 19, 2015, 3:57 a.m. by UmbrotheUmbreon
So yeah, decided to make this cause it just spawned in my head as a great idea. It was at the time, not sure anymore :I
UmbrotheUmbreon says... #3
Oopsie, forgot to edit that :P It should say "Whenever another creature is put into the graveyard..." xD
March 19, 2015 4:32 a.m.
branston567 says... #4
Infinite combo with undying? Seems like sac outlet plus Geralf's Messenger is infinite life loss
March 19, 2015 4:35 a.m.
UmbrotheUmbreon says... #5
Huh, didn't think about that. I was just trying to create the genius that is Carl
March 19, 2015 4:54 a.m.
I don't see an infinite loop. When you save the messenger it comes back into play under your opponen ts control.
March 19, 2015 5:02 a.m.
UmbrotheUmbreon says... #8
Huh, I don't know, this seems out of my knowledge on how the rule works now that I get a good thinking to it.
March 19, 2015 6:19 a.m.
NobodyPicksBulbasaur says... #9
Well it kills all creatures that enter the battlefield, under anyone's control.
So what ends up happening is that any creature that gets played immediately dies, comes back, then dies, then comes back, then dies...
It doesn't matter that your opponent gains control of it, it's still gonna make a loop.
Also, the second ability doesn't specify where the creature is entering the graveyard from. As written, milling a card could also start the loop.
March 19, 2015 7:34 a.m.
Currently, here's what happens:
Cast carl
Carl destroys himself
Carl is returned under an opponent's control with a -1/-1 counter
Carl destroys himself
Carl is returned under an opponent's opponent's control with a -1/-1 counter
Carl destroys himself
Carl is returned under an opponent's opponent's opponent's control with a -1/-1 counter
Carl destroys himself
and so on for infinity
March 19, 2015 7:35 a.m.
Oh shoot it says "another"
I was extremely confused if you couldn't tell
...don't get rid of "another"
March 19, 2015 7:36 a.m.
NobodyPicksBulbasaur says... #12
Try
"Whenever another creature enters the battlefield, it gains persist until end of turn. If that creature didn't enter the battlefield with a -1/-1 counter on it, destroy it."
I can't think of a way to template the second ability at the moment, and I don't have enough time to think on it.
March 19, 2015 7:39 a.m.
"Whenever another creature enters the battlefield, if it has not -1/-1 counters on it, destroy it.
Whenever a creature is destroyed by ~, return to the battlefield under your control with a -1/-1 counter on it."
The opponent's opponent thing gets too tricky. Just take them lol.
Also, I feel like he needs Deathtouch.
March 19, 2015 7:43 a.m.
UmbrotheUmbreon says... #14
I can't believe an experienced player like me neglected that interaction disaster Dx
"Whenever a creature enters the battlefield, if it has no -1/-1 counters on it, destroy it.
Whenever a creature dies, return it to the battlefield under it's owner's opponents control."
tempest says... #2
there's no end to that creature being destroyed and brought back...
March 19, 2015 4:24 a.m.