Tibalt, the Tormentor

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Posted on May 16, 2016, 11:39 p.m. by DemonDragonJ

Many players consider Tibalt to be virtually unplayable, no matter what deck in which he is used, so I seek to make a version of him that is actually playable, or two versions, to be more accurate, as seen below:

Tibalt, the Tormentor (version A) Show

Tibalt, the Tormentor

Casting Cost:

Planeswalker - Tibalt

Loyalty: 3

[+1]: draw a card, then discard a card unless you pay 2 life.

[-3]: destroy target creature unless its controller pays life equal to its toughness. A creature that is destroyed this way cannot be regenerated.

[-6]: each opponent chooses four permanents that he or she controls, then sacrifices the rest.

Tibalt, the Tormentor (version B) Show

Tibalt, the Tormentor

Casting Cost:

Planeswalker - Tibalt

Loyalty: 3

[+1]: draw a card, then discard a card unless you pay 2 life.

[-3]: target player discards his or her hand unless he or she pays 6 life.

[-6]: each opponent chooses four permanents that he or she controls, then sacrifices the rest.

I chose to make Tibalt both black and red, since his personality fits into those colors, and I increased both his converted mana cost and starting loyalty from his original incarnation. All of his abilities focus on the theme of sadistic choices, the first being for his controller, the other two being for the opponents of his controller. His first ability here is nearly identical to the first ability on his original card, except that his controller may now keep all cards in their hand, at the cost of life. The only difference between the two versions of him is his second ability; the first one is modeled after Essence Vortex, an obscure older card that I believe deserves a reprint, and the second is modeled after Tyrannize, with the life loss reduced to balance the fact that it requires no mana and is repeatable (I was originally planning for it to be only 5 life, but I thought that that would make the choice too easy). His final ability is modeled after Razia's Purification, but affecting only opponents (to fit the self-centeredness of red/black) and allow them to keep four permanents, again, to balance the fact that the ability costs no mana and is theoretically repeatable.

What does everyone else say about these cards? How well did I do with them?

DERPLINGSUPREME says... #2

the second one is broken.

3 mana for basically 6 damage is broke.

3 mana for a hand dump is only SLIGHTLY less broke.

IT. is broke.

May 17, 2016 1:21 a.m.

PistonGolem says... #3

When modelling the -3, keep in mind you are effectively paying 3 mana for dumping your opponent's hand or burning them 6. I'll put it this way, if they put that effect on a card for the same mana cost, will it warp standard? Yas it will.

May 17, 2016 9:38 a.m.

DemonDragonJ says... #4

DERPLINGSUPREME, PistonGolem, do you have any recommendations to make the second version less overpowered, or should I simply abandon that version and keep the first version?

May 17, 2016 2:30 p.m.

Brett05 says... #5

I would make the -3 "target player discards three cards unless they pay two life per car kept". Almost like the effect on Sylvan library. Keeps it balanced, but still a good effect

May 18, 2016 5:15 p.m.

Brett05 says... #6

I would make the -3 "target player discards three cards unless they pay two life per car kept". Almost like the wording on Sylvan library. Keeps it balanced, but still a good effect

May 18, 2016 5:15 p.m.