B/U Zombie Mill - What do you think?
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Posted on Feb. 28, 2012, 9:37 p.m. by CrunchBogus
I have a had a good deal of fun with this deck, but have not tested it competitively. There are tons of cards I want to shove in, but I can only fit so many, so it's very hard to decide.
Have a look-see and tell me if you would be afraid to sit across from me, or laugh at the easy victory: Dr. Ned's Old Fashioned Mill Deck
In its earlier form, I didn't have as many creatures, but Dark Ascension added several great new candidates like Diregraf Captain and Geralf's Mindcrusher that I can't say no to. I haven't gotten Mindcrusher onto the field yet, so I want to play him at least once before I decide if he should go. I can't bring myself to lose the Phyrexian Crusaders or the Captains, but I would like to throw in a second Chill of Foreboding (to be replaced with Increasing Confusion as I collect more copies). I put in 3x Thought Scour at the last minute, have not used it yet but think the drawing would be handy to help my mana efficiency. I wish I could run 4 at the same time as 4x Dream Twist, but I just can't find a single card to drop, and I mustn't lose any Twists for milling's sake.
eggbrains1 says... #3
I'd definitely say add Rooftop Storm, because you will most likely get an Undead Alchemist within your first 5 turns, so why not be able to play all of your zombies at once and just mill the crap out of your opponent?
February 28, 2012 10:17 p.m.
CrunchBogus says... #4
I own 2 copies, but I've always been torn as to whether or not I should run it, if it's worth the time it takes to cast it. I was reading a lot of mixed information about it, but being able to play Geth and the Alchemists for free is very tempting.
Question is, what do I replace? Should I only run one of Rooftop Storm, or go for 2 to double my odds?
March 1, 2012 1:56 a.m.
CrunchBogus says... #5
Actually, I may just cut out Skaab Ruinator and Chill of Foreboding. Really, the only reason I wanted to keep Chill was to ensure I have enough dead creatures to exile for Ruinator, and I only had Ruinator in there to justify my trading a Seachrome Coast for it (plus another rare which has gone down in value, oi). However, I want to make a G/U deck that feeds off having creatures in my graveyard, so he would be right at home there! I just don't want it to go to waste.
March 1, 2012 1:59 a.m.
CrunchBogus says... #6
Of course, when I did get Skaab Ruinator out, he was one helluva doozy! I never got to use him in tandem with Undead Alchemist, so the damage was all health and no mill. I suppose, in the end, he's just too hard to summon with a deck like this, and he's only fluff.
March 1, 2012 2:01 a.m.
Shavingfoams says... #7
Skaab Ruinator generally is too difficult to summon, which is why he didn't keep his sky high price he had when innistrad released. I have a G/U Self Mill, and I considered running the Ruinators as well, but I would recommend against it. One killspell or bounce and you find you've shut down your deck's mechanics for nothing. Give my Diggin to China deck a look. I know it looks insane with the severe lack of lands, but it works like a charm.
March 1, 2012 11:07 a.m.
CrunchBogus says... #8
Nnnng, I just feel like such a dunce though. I used to have an Inkmoth Nexus too, and I wound up trading it for some stuff I don't really use, and that are still collectively worth less. It was one of my first rare cards, came out of my Deckbuilder's Toolkit 2011. I'm tired of trading my valuable lands for nothing! I'm gonna use that Skaab if it kills me. I just won't cast him unless he shows up at a convenient time. It's only a 1-of.
Anyway, I like the look of your deck. I have a Mirror-Mad and some Maniacs I want to plop in there, though I may run at least 2 Maniacs to increase the chance of him appearing. I will definitely have 4 Splinterfright, but I don't know about Boneyard Wurm unless I have room for more filler creatures. He is the same, only without trample, except he costs 1 mana less so that's good. I'll have to test it out, but first I need to buy a few more cards. I only have 1 Wreath of Geists, for starters.
March 1, 2012 4:30 p.m.
Shavingfoams says... #9
if you run a singleton Laboratory Maniac and a singleton Memory's Journey they work together, since you don't need him till you're out of deck anyway. I'm not a huge fan of Wreath of Geists because it's not a creature, and you cannot get it back easy if you mill it, not to mention a bounce or kill spell nets you negative 1 card. It's funny, don't get me wrong, it has won me games stuck on an Invisible Stalker If you like the wreath, consider running a land heavier build, and 2 Bonehoard and 2 Buried Ruin although I would still rather have creatures that do things on board and benefit me in grave, and instants, over artifacts and more lands. As far as Boneyard Wurm goes, you're right, he's not a great creature, but he's a decent creature, a 2 drop, and a possible threat. If you wanted you could replace him with any number of good creatures, so long as they provide good utility or threat. for example, I could take 2 wurms and 2 scabs from my deck for 4 Snapcaster Mage but the benefit would not be worth the money to me. The primary thing is to have the deck be creature heavy, on top of that, there are a dozen good ways you can take the archetype.
March 2, 2012 12:52 a.m.
CrunchBogus says... #10
I actually have 2 Snapcaster Mage, and I've yet to make any use of them! I thought about a R/U Delver deck, but I'm not really feeling it - even though I love Brundlefly. You think he'd be good in a deck where I could end up milling both of them?
I've also thought about Grim Flowering. I don't have any Beast Within, but it's good in most G decks, so I'd like to get a couple. Right now, I am just having the dilemma of 'too many options, not enough space.' I should link you to my ongoing prototype for this deck, since we're discussing it more than the B/U one:
deck:dont-go-in-the-woods
Shavingfoams says... #2
If it's not standard, Rooftop Storm
and Soulquake
play great together for late game wins.
February 28, 2012 10:09 p.m.