Deck idea help
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Posted on May 13, 2012, 2:26 p.m. by whallybu49
I was randomly browsing magiccards.info and came across an interesting card. Bitter Ordeal caught my eye for two reasons; one, because ive always liked the storm mechanic but have only been able to make it work in Red; two, because it is Black and the idea of Gravestorm is wonderfully evil for this game >:)I'm wondering if I could possibly make a fun casual deck out of this, but I have no idea what to build it with... Some help would be appreciated, especially from some of the veteran members here and from experienced players as well.
Epochalyptik says... #3
Gravestorm requires that permanents be put into a graveyard. Permanents are objects on the battlefield. Putting a land, creature, planeswalker, artifact, or enchantment into your graveyard will count for gravestorm, but putting a land card, creature card, planeswalker card, artifact card, or enchantment card into your graveyard from a non-battlefield zone will not.
The CR quote to back up my analysis:
702.67a Gravestorm is a triggered ability that functions on the stack. "Gravestorm" means "When you cast this spell, put a copy of it onto the stack for each permanent that was put into a graveyard from the battlefield this turn. If the spell has any targets, you may choose new targets for any of the copies."
You might use a token sacrifice deck to take advantage of this, as tokens do hit the yard. You would almost need an infinite combo to make it fully effective.
Perhaps you could look into incorporating it into an Eldrazi Spawn deck? You could use Awakening Zone and Brood Birthing. For a non-mill wincon you could include Beastmaster Ascension for swinging with all your tokens.
May 13, 2012 3:12 p.m.
whallybu49 says... #4
ah thanks Epoch I wasnt sure if tokens do hit the graveyard before they cease to exist. That helps out alot! Are there any infinite combos for untapping artifacts? Because i have an idea for Time Sieve and maybe Kuldotha Forgemaster.
May 13, 2012 11:40 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #5
There's a loop you can make with 2x Myr Galvanizer and any number of Myr that produce mana, but as for general artifacts I am not sure.
There's the ThopterBlade combo: Thopter Foundry + Sword of the Meek. Sacrifice Sword to Foundry and it comes back attached to the token. You can do this as many times as you can pay for it, so it goes infinite with Ashnod's Altar. You could add Clock of Omens to untap Time Sieve and then sacrifice the tapped creatures to pay for Time Sieve's ability.
The problem with that is while all the ideas are there, the deck might fail in practice due to overcomplexity. At the very least, though, the Thopter approach provides an alternate wincon.
Sagi007 says... #2
not real got tht much experience but to as how i read tht card what a bout a mill deck mil opponent then Bitter Ordeal
lets say 6cards a milled and assume 2 land, 2instants and 2 creature tht would make 4 permanents and then copy. would this work?
could be wrong of my understanding of storm cards havnt bin playing for all tht long and never payed much attention to older cards.
May 13, 2012 2:48 p.m.