Fog or Aetherize??
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Posted on Nov. 7, 2013, 6:18 p.m. by Lord007
For my deck deck-large:elite-tactics-27-10-13-1
AEtherize or Fog ? Huge tempo play or prevent damage? The difference in costs is astounding and the downside of the AEtherize is that its not as easy to justify exiling under Elite Arcanist as Fog but the upside is that AEtherize could take them a some time to recover from...
Thoughts?
I would love to run Silence except that I'm already running 3 colors. I'm pretty sure I can't manage a 4th.
November 7, 2013 6:38 p.m.
i'd go with AEtherize if you find you can afford it, mana wise. i say that because if i'm playing against your deck, i'd rather see a Fog , then i can cast another creature, and i'll get you next turn hopefully. if you AEtherize i have to back peddle a bit and re-cast my stuff. i'd also have to re-monstrous anything i made monstrous if that be the case, and if i had any counters on stuff, i'd lose those. fog is cheap and easy, but AEtherize has the POTENTIAL to be more encumbering to your opponent. tough call, but i think you'll have the mana for AEtherize when you want to cast it. i think this is a case of swap 'em out and see if it works out better. AEtherize could have all manner of potential befits to you. Fog will prevent combat damage, and that's all youre gonna get out of that.
November 7, 2013 6:52 p.m.
That's kinda what I was thinking maxon thanks for your help. I'll test it out and see what I come up with.
November 7, 2013 6:56 p.m.
The thing with AEtherize though is the cost, especially if you want to be able to combo it with your Elite Arcanist to get more uses out of it. It will be a lot tougher to routinely hold back the 4 mana and be able to cast your other spells like Izzet Charm and Negate , or even cast things on your turn like Opportunity and Magma Jet and have 4 mana left over. Another thing about AEtherize is once you exile it when Elite Arcanist comes into play, your opponent will play around it and just not over extend themselves by not attacking with all of their creatures. Making it much less effective for the price. I don't think it would be a horrible idea to add in a couple into your deck, but I would reconsider it if your dead set on using it with the Arcanist.
November 7, 2013 7:47 p.m.
you wouldn't be using Elite Arcanist with AEtherize you would just have 2 or 3 of them in your deck for when things get out of hand
November 7, 2013 8:33 p.m.
I was just going by what he said in his original post and question, its not like I was trying to force him to use that combo of cards
November 7, 2013 8:36 p.m.
oh no i totally agree with you on what you said abenz419, i only meant to clarify what i had said meant i would rather have AEtherize and use it seperately from the arcanist rather than trying to Fog bomb them.
November 7, 2013 8:42 p.m.
I would probably run AEtherize as it stalls much more. Especially in a strategy that isn't turbo-fog.
November 7, 2013 9:06 p.m.
Just want to clear a few things up: What I meant with the exiling off of Elite Arcanist is that when I have 2 arcanists in hand and need to stall for another part of my combo I've sometimes managed to use fog under the arcanist to survive longer. If I switched for AEtherize I realize I would lose this ability.
November 7, 2013 9:31 p.m.
@Lord007: Why? If you have the mana to cast the Elite Arcanist , you will also have the mana to cast AEtherize repeatedly.
November 7, 2013 9:33 p.m.
I guess it's not impossible but it would depend a lot on my hand. If the only redeaming quality to the hand is 2 Elite Arcanist and say Zhur-Taa Druid and AEtherize then I would totally do just that unless it would just eat removal and not actually stall anything. If my hand has the double arcanists but also has Izzet Charm , Negate , Simic Charm and/or Opportunity I'll need my mana every turn for those things.
November 7, 2013 9:37 p.m.
as long as you can protect your Elite Arcanist , like another archanist with Mizzium Skin or with your counterspells, then fog is probably the best way to go. What are they going to do, keep attacking into you knowing you can fog them every turn? that would just get them nowhere and would stall better to get to your combo than the AEtherize would.
Behgz says... #2
they will recover from aetherize immediately unless they have been making tokens.
if your going the elite arcanist route, might i suggest Silence I find it to be much more satisfying when my opponent legally can't cast spells during their own turn, after turn after turn.
November 7, 2013 6:28 p.m.