gruul slivers?
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Posted on July 17, 2013, 5:08 p.m. by amishrambo
its not even a week after m14 prerelease and I got the rotation jitters cause my deck gruuling victory will lose a lot of its teeth and I was thinking slivers could be my replacement. so what I'm asking is could G/R slivers with my deck as its shell work?
amishrambo says... #3
what ever is rotating is what I need to replace when they do
July 17, 2013 5:24 p.m.
Yes, but what else are you willing to pull out? For example, will you keep Ranger's Guile , which is being reprinted, or would you be willing to trade it for, lets say, Door of Destinies?
July 17, 2013 5:26 p.m.
amishrambo says... #5
maybe Gruul Charm or Ash Zealot and I will keep Ranger's Guile in mainB zero people play with this card in mind
July 17, 2013 5:30 p.m.
I think out of all decks, gruul aggro as an archetype will remain fairly unchanged. Just from looking at your deck, when Theros comes:
Flinthoof Boar --> Kalonian Tusker
Strangleroot Geist --> pyrewild shaman
Hellrider , Thundermaw Hellkite , Zealous Conscripts --> Ogre Battledriver /4-drop or lower of your choice.
Aggro creatures are the easiest of rotation cards to change out because they're easily replaceable. Just find cards you think will work.
July 17, 2013 5:44 p.m.
Ranger's Guile was just an example of a non rotating card. Honestly, I think its a little early to worry about rotation, since we don't know what Theros will bring.
That being said, the main issue I see with switching this to Slivers is tempo. Currently, most of your early game creatures have haste and can attack into the probable board state of your opponent without worrying about losing them. Your late game consists of a few threats to either finish off your opponent or clear the board. If this is wrong, please correct me.
Slivers play rather differently. While its possible to run a very fast sliver deck with a good hand of Striking Slivers and Predatory Slivers, the better play on them is probably to play defensively and ramp into power. If you really want to make a Sliver deck, and that may not be the best idea, I'd switch to Naya colors and build around an early Manaweft Sliver, or Door of Destinies as a backup/ defense against board wipes.
July 17, 2013 5:46 p.m.
Meh. There's no point in looking at things to replace your other cards with until we see at least some of what Theros has to offer. Until, just sit tight and enjoy Standard.
July 17, 2013 6:39 p.m.
amishrambo says... #9
i doint really have a itch to make a sliver deck i just thought slivers would be a nice thing to be flexible with. you see most matches i play with this goes 1 of 2 ways.
1.my opponent doesint have much removal and we both are building a army of dudes then we stall since we both have creatures then i Gruul Charm overload Mizzium Mortars or Clan Defiance and get in for lethal.
- playing against a heavy control and with most of my guys have haste they can dodge sorc removal and at least get in once before they die and with all that pokeing and getting in for damage at turn like 8-9 and i rip a Clan Defiance there dead and even if i don't I hit a creature that has haste so i can play them buff with Kessig Wolf Run and kill them.
so you see with rotation I lose my trump card haste
July 17, 2013 7:19 p.m.
Again, I want to stress that you don't need to switch now and that we know almost nothing about what Theros will bring.
That said, Slivers are ok in matchup 1, although they may not give your opponents as much pause early in the game as your current setup.
In matchup 2, you are basically relying on topdecking a Blur Sliver to win. Much worse than your current setup.
I'd wait. You don't need to switch now, slivers give little benefit in your case, and Theros may bring replacements.
July 17, 2013 7:25 p.m.
amishrambo says... #11
well worst case scenario theros has nothing im looking for and I will just build mono-green beats or something
fingers crossed
raithe000 says... #2
Possibly, but it depends on what you are replacing. Of the cards you're losing, I don't see any obvious replacement for Flinthoof Boar , Strangleroot Geist , Thundermaw Hellkite or Zealous Conscripts . Playing slivers would also lose you a lot of your early haste.
July 17, 2013 5:14 p.m.