How Good is Tyrannize?
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Posted on Nov. 23, 2024, 9:48 a.m. by DemonDragonJ
I have two copies of Tyrannize in my red/black deck, because I like cards that force my opponents to make a sadistic choice, but that card is rather expensive for a one-shot effect, and I also feel that better options have been printed in recent years, such as Perforating Artist, so I am wondering if I should keep Tyrannize in that deck.
What does everyone else say, about this? How good of a card is Tyrannize?
DemonDragonJ says... #3
wallisface, thank you, for that advice, because I do agree that I should lower the mana curve of that deck and that Tyrannize is too expensive for its effect.
November 23, 2024 5:56 p.m.
wallisfaceLibrary of Lat-Nam is a worse opponent chooses card, but I agree other than that.
DemonDragonJ what power level are you playing at?
November 23, 2024 6:06 p.m.
RiotRunner789 says... #5
In commander, I'd play Lava Axe over this. Mostly it'd be for a laugh but ideally you play neither. Bloodchief Ascension for life loss or Mind Twist for targeted discard would probably be better.
November 23, 2024 6:33 p.m.
jethstriker says... #6
If the goal of the deck is to make the opponent discard, then I suggest you replace the creatures that needs to connect first for more dedicated discard spells. Wrench Mind, Hymn to Tourach, and Mind Twist partnered with The Rack and Shrieking Affliction makes a good base for a discarder deck.
Also, I think its already common knowledge that choice cards are not ideal inclusions. If you really insist on using them, one of the better choice cards I recommend is Vexing Devil. It comes down fast and early enough that the opponent might make the wrong choice due to lack of information.
November 24, 2024 4:55 a.m.
DemonDragonJ says... #7
Bookrook, I typically am a very casual player, as I like to enjoy the game, and prefer to not be too competitive or vicious, when I play.
November 24, 2024 4:39 p.m.
Goldberserkerdragon says... #8
Still hung on the Perforating Artist, ehh? If you like the artist or question another card, just swap it and see how it feels. Play some mock games. And dont look at the card game in such a way, nothing wrong with playing powerful cards. You may not even play the deck that night with them. And if you do, you might not see said powerful cards. And you might not even resolve it. And if you do, it might be removed. Removal is the perfect balance to not feel bad for playing good or powerful cards. And it's just a card game. No viciousness needed lol. If people get salty that's on them man, people really need to snap out of it. It's cards. Whatever. Lol, so again, just try the swap brother--Cheers!
wallisface says... #2
Generally, any effect where the opponent chooses what happens, is really bad. The opponent will always choose the option that favours them the most, so the spell will always be doing its weakest/least-useful mode.
Tyrannize also looks like possibly the worst ”opponent chooses effect” spells i’ve ever seen. By the time you can actually cast this, the odds of an opponent having zero cards in hand already must be pretty close to 100% (and, if they don’t, they’re likely playing control, and can just counter the spell if they care enough).
I think this spell will almost always do nothing (because the opponent has already played their cards), and even if it does do something, its effect will be tiny (because it’ll be getting cast at such a late point of the game, and likely not doing anything that matters as far as changing boardstate etc).
I can’t think of many worse ways to spend 5 mana.
As an aside, your red/black deck needs to drastically lower its curve. You’re currently doing nothing on the first 2 turns of the game, meaning you’re always starting 2-full turns behind your opponent - a really dangerous place to be! Decks generally automatically-lose if they’re giving their opponent 2-free turns (there’s obviously exceptions, like Tron, but this is rare. Without some way to accrue massive value, or reset the board, you’re in deep trouble).
November 23, 2024 3:24 p.m.