how to battle a...
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Posted on Feb. 26, 2013, 6:54 p.m. by reawkwian
how does a black deck battle a white deck thats token and removal based (exile cards like pacifism and erase )? duress doesnt help too much needless to sy because my friend has 8 enchantment exile cards and a few creatures that do it.
tokens? Illness in the Ranks solves all your problems :]
February 26, 2013 7:19 p.m.
Black has no enchantment removal. It's not something that fits in with its colour scheme. Green however does and you can get a lot of utility in splashing green for nice things like Abrupt Decay .
Aside from that you can force them to discard with Ravenous Rats , Mind Rot and Duress .
February 26, 2013 7:30 p.m.
i do actually use illness in the ranks to deal with the tokens and how do u sacrifice an exiled creature i know their are ways to kinda swap exiled creatures... i think but if so black definately doesnt have that ability atleast to the best of my knowlege
February 26, 2013 7:34 p.m.
swap exiled creatures? The only creature i know that plays around with exiled cards are Bane Alley Broker , Nightveil Specter and Misthollow Griffin and none of them swap places
February 26, 2013 7:36 p.m.
You can use Fiend Hunter and Oblivion Ring or something like that. Not sure. But yeh there's like an infinite exile trick.
February 26, 2013 7:38 p.m.
yea i dont like it my best bet is just to not use my favorite deck and jsut go green i guess =_= it doesnt help that his white deck is the only one he uses on my vampires
February 26, 2013 7:42 p.m.
You don't have to not use your favorite deck, just make adjustments and use its strengths to make up for its weaknesses. Keep in mind if you're working with an aggressive black deck, some of the advantages you do have over mono-white are more creature removal, discard, and card draw. Make sure to work within your mana curve, figure out which creatures work best for you and try to increase the number of them to 3-4 each.
If you normally play against this friend casually, consider changing your strategy depending on what you're playing against. Sometimes the best way to deal with single target creature removal is to flood your opponent with more creatures. If they're running board wipes, establish your immediate threat and hold some back just in case. Or run something like Disentomb or a reanimate effect. In a vampire deck, something simple like a transformed Bloodline Keeper Flip or Vampire Nocturnus can make plenty of difference. Suddenly your low cost vampires can become threats too, and a simple Pacifism isn't going to do much.
Since you're running a vampires deck, you can check out mine Vamp Vamp Vamp It Up! for ideas. Hope my advice helps!
Emrakool says... #2
Mutilate and Sever the Bloodline can work as excellent mass removal spells against tokens. As for enchantment removal, you're pretty limited outside of Duress . You might want to find ways to sacrifice the creatures and return them to the battlefield instead.
February 26, 2013 7:16 p.m.