Is this a working combo ? Devastation Tide + Think Twice

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Posted on Nov. 22, 2012, 2:27 p.m. by jokercrow

In other words, can I cast a sorcery, for example Devastation Tide , for it's miracle cost on my opponent's turn if I draw it with Think Twice ?

O_o

Rayenous says... #2

Yes.

So long as the miracle card is the first card you draw that turn, you may cast it for it's miracle cost. This includes your opponents turn, if you find a way to draw during their turn.

Think Twice can certainly help you do this.

November 22, 2012 2:49 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... #3

It's not a combo, but yes, that works. Miracle is an ability and an alternate cost that bypasses timing restrictions for sorceries. You can cast Devastation Tide for its miracle cost no matter whose turn you drew it on so long as its the first card you drew that turn.

November 22, 2012 2:50 p.m.

zandl says... #4

Yes. If you draw a card with Miracle first, you can ignore the timing restrictions and cast it as you draw it, whenever it is.

If you couldn't, Miracle wouldn't work (as you can't normally cast Sorcery spells during your Draw step).

November 22, 2012 2:50 p.m.

zandl says... #5

Whoa. Ninja'd.

November 22, 2012 2:50 p.m.

jokercrow says... #6

Awesome !!! : )

Ninja'd... ?... Well, anyway I love ninjas ! : D

November 22, 2012 3:51 p.m.

zandl says... #7

I said "Ninja'd" because I started writing my post when this topic had no posts on it, but by the time I sent my post, the other two ninja'd me and snuck in before me.

November 22, 2012 3:53 p.m.

jokercrow says... #8

While we are here, could you tell what would happen if I draw my miracle with Izzet Charm if it's the only card that I have left in hand. Do I have to discard first or is the miracle triggering first ?

November 22, 2012 4:05 p.m.

zandl says... #9

You can't cast cards while an ability is resolving. You'd have to discard it.

November 22, 2012 4:11 p.m.

When you resolve an object on the stack, you resolve it completely before you can do anything else. If you draw your first card for the turn via Izzet Charm and that card is a miracle, then you may reveal it before you put it into your hand. The miracle ability thus triggers, but it won't go onto the stack until after Izzet Charm has finished resolving. However, by that time you will have discarded the miracle. Its triggered ability would do nothing.

November 22, 2012 4:33 p.m.

zandl says... #11

If you had more than just Izzet Charm in your hand when you double-Looted, then you would have to reveal the Miracle as soon as you drew it before you discarded, and it would have to be the very first card you drew that turn.

November 22, 2012 4:51 p.m.

jokercrow says... #12

Ok, thank you all.

: )

November 22, 2012 6:12 p.m.

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