Modern Combo Mindcrank+Duskmantle Guldmage
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Posted on July 23, 2013, 4:07 p.m. by DeletedNow4ever
Is this deck viable? It has a two card combo with enablers and can get in damage if neccesary.
DeletedNow4ever says... #3
Hmmm, with turn 4-6 wins easy to pull off, cantrips for days, and tutors that hit both pieces of your combo, I'm curious as to why you don't think it would be a tournament viable deck? It has removal and counters, isn't trying too hard to combo, needs only two cards for the combo, and can beat down if it needs to with Creeping Tar Pit . What about it makes you reluctant to say it could be viable?
July 23, 2013 4:28 p.m.
Formortiis says... #4
Easy. Point me to one deck that has placed in any Modern tournament or MTGO Modern Daily that runs both those cards.
Can't? I rest my case.
July 23, 2013 4:39 p.m.
I have never seen it win, therefore it cannot ever win.
I love your induction Formortiis too bad it's not actually valid argument.
July 23, 2013 4:50 p.m.
Formortiis says... #6
Oh it's perfectly valid. If it were able to win, it would have by now. Duskmantle Guildmage has been out since Gatecrash and been modern legal since then. There's also been at least one Pro Tour Modern tournament since then as well. If this combo was able to do any sort of serious damage, we would have heard about it by now.
It also doesn't help that Control just laughs this combo off and that the early board state with this sort of deck is so hectic that more than half the time Aggro can just dominate it.
July 23, 2013 4:57 p.m.
Formortiis says... #8
It happens so rarely that it might as well not. Besides, the activation costs for the Guildmage's abilities are WAY too steep. It takes 5 mana with the Thought Scour to set off the combo and 7 mana without. Given that I thought both activation costs were UB when making my previous comments, you can only imagine how much they've been magnified by this revelation.
This isn't EDH land and you shouldn't be acting as though it is.
July 23, 2013 5:46 p.m.
Is it played yes! Is it good... No. Just going the straight up mill your opponent route is way better.
July 23, 2013 6:31 p.m.
Formortiis says... #10
Actually that might be questionable. I'm convinced this deck can do better than the average mill deck very easily as it IS generally faster.
July 23, 2013 6:34 p.m.
Would completely disagree with you there Formortiis check this list out.
http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=5297&d=230537
July 23, 2013 6:37 p.m.
Formortiis says... #12
Huh. I didn't think a mill deck would be able to 4-0 a MTGO Modern Daily. TCGPlayer.Com also seems to confirm this miracle, too.
July 23, 2013 6:50 p.m.
It's been popping up a lot never would have thought it either and it has tons of room to grow.
July 23, 2013 11:15 p.m.
Formortiis says... #14
Maybe as BUG mill, but I don't think U/B mill's going to get any bigger than it already is.
July 24, 2013 12:42 a.m.
It defiantly hasn't reached its ceiling yet. 95% of the meta searches there library's in one way or another. And it just has spells after spells that mill.
July 24, 2013 12:48 a.m.
Formortiis says... #16
It does have tons of hate in the form of legendary Eldrazi and, (my personal favorite) Leyline of Sanctity . If it even so much as starts to take off, it's going to get hated out of the meta faster than Tron.
Formortiis says... #2
Define "viable". Do you mean is it able to work in a tournament? If that's the case, then probably not. I will admit, though, that at least this Mindcrank+Duskmantle combo deck at least knows what it is and isn't trying to be something else like an actual mill deck.
July 23, 2013 4:24 p.m.