Omniscience!!!
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Posted on Sept. 26, 2012, 9:03 p.m. by thilli
I am making a Green-Blue-Black deck, it's mainly black and blue, with lots of artifacts. The black is there, because of Increasing Ambition . I need help figuring out what cards to add. I currently have a lot of Myr cards, because they give you mana, and can help with playing Omniscience .
Rampant Growth Dark Ritual Black Lotus blah blah blah
September 26, 2012 9:07 p.m.
Thanks, I thought I added Rampant Growth, but idk. Dark ritual I will add for sure.
September 26, 2012 9:13 p.m.
Inforussle says... #5
High Tide , Piracy ? Yea they are older but they are really useful for trying to cast Omniscience
September 26, 2012 9:54 p.m.
Piracy won't ramp you at all, so long as your opponents know what they are doing. They'll just tap their own lands in response to float the mana before you can tap them for yourself.
It's really only used to forcing your opponent to tap out before casting a big spell.
September 26, 2012 9:58 p.m.
What I use for this is: Pristine Talisman . Next turn, drop a Gilded Lotus , tap, pay 2 life, Phyrexian Metamorph the lotus. Bam, turn 6 Omniscience
September 27, 2012 4:37 a.m.
Thanks for all the suggestions, I will try to add in as many as I can. I also have another question, I have Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon , Harbor Serpent , Primordial Hydra , Stormtide Leviathan , and Spire Monitor as my more powerful cards to use when I have Omniscience , but do I need more, or less? (Any suggestions?)
September 27, 2012 7:15 a.m.
Primordial Hydra isn't good with Omniscience . If you want to make X a value other than 0, you'd have to pay for it. If youcast Primordial Hydra using Omniscience , it comes out with no counters and dies.
September 27, 2012 3:55 p.m.
I know that, but it usually takes 10 turns to get out Omniscience , and by then, I typically have out 1-3 Gilded Lotus es, and 10 mana. plus, if I can't get out Omniscience early, I always have Primordial Hydra to turn to.
September 27, 2012 4:10 p.m.
I averaged out how many turns it took me to cast Omniscience btw.
September 27, 2012 4:12 p.m.
If your left with a bunch of premanents that ramp after you cast omniscience, you don't really need omniscience anymore...
Dark Ritual and Non-gilded cards that say Lotus in the name should be your mana sources, leaving a bunch of spaces for answers and finishers.
September 27, 2012 4:36 p.m.
In all fairness, you cant blue sun for 11 with omniscience.
September 27, 2012 4:46 p.m.
Yeah, but if you're hard-casting Omniscience , couldn't you have already won the game? 10 mana is a ton of mana.
September 27, 2012 4:49 p.m.
It all depends on how many powerful cards I get right away, and sometimes I have less than 10 mana, I was just saying typically, and I didn't average my mana at all. Plus, it depends on your opponent too, if they get a bunch of powerful creatures off fast, then sometimes you'll have a ton of dead creatures, and Omniscience can be what you need to win.
September 27, 2012 4:55 p.m.
Also, at the earliest, I got Omniscience out on turn 7, and with this deck, it's possible to get it out on turn 6.
September 27, 2012 4:56 p.m.
Maybe try Mana Bloom. With it, you could use 6 mana to make ten (eleven) the next turn. Might be worth messing with for testing.
September 27, 2012 5:07 p.m.
Thanks, that would be really nice, I'll make sure to add this in later.
September 27, 2012 5:16 p.m.
Wow...I'm totally wrong about Mana Bloom and now I don't much like the card for anything but color fixing in a deck that doesn't need to be too quick. Sorry.
September 27, 2012 5:32 p.m.
@zandl Of course it's a lot of mana (not to sound rude). I've made a type of Omniscience deck, and most of the time get smashed before I even get a lotus down. I said card:Blue Sun's Zenith, because what if you don't happen to have a win-con in your hand when you cast it? It's just hoping they can't kill you in a turn. One win-con you're not always guaranteed to get without a blue sun is card:Sorin's Vengeance+Archaeomancer . It's just for insurance, if you will
September 27, 2012 5:47 p.m.
@bleath02 Wow, I never thought of that combo, that's awesome!
September 27, 2012 8:33 p.m.
@bleath02 Wow, I never thought of that combo, that's awesome!
thilli says... #2
I also have Birds of Paradise due to the fact that they can give you mana of any color.
September 26, 2012 9:06 p.m.