Persist
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Posted on Aug. 17, 2011, 3:09 p.m. by Nethermind
i have a vanilla 1/1 with persist and Juniper Order Ranger on the battlefield. my 1/1 gets blown up and leaves the battlefield and comes back with persist. seeing as the rules for persist is that the creature enters the battlefield with a -1/-1 counter, does it hit the battlefield for juniper ranger's ability to save it, or does something funky happen?
Epochalyptik says... #4
The 1/1 will enter as a 0/0 because of the -1/-1 counter from persist. Juniper Order Ranger 's ability will trigger and the 0/0 will die as part of state-based checks. The Ranger will still get its counter afterwards.
August 17, 2011 3:24 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #5
Wow. Delayed double post. Sorry bout that one. Basically comes down to priority and state-based-actions.
August 17, 2011 3:25 p.m.
To keep the 1/1 with persist alive you would want Melira, Sylvok Outcast instead of Juniper Order Ranger
August 17, 2011 10 p.m.
Or any Anthem effect - those would keep it alive long enough for the Ranger to trigger
August 18, 2011 8:48 a.m.
Jarrod_0067 says... #8
did they really print a 1/1 persist creature?
a herp derp
Epochalyptik says... #2
The 1/1 will enter as a 0/0 because of the -1/-1 counter from persist. Juniper Order Ranger 's ability will trigger and the 0/0 will die as part of state-based checks. The Ranger will still get its counter afterwards.
August 17, 2011 3:19 p.m.