Tutor Suggestions
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Posted on Sept. 3, 2012, 2:46 p.m. by revitev
Having a hard time making setting up everything perfectly getting a combo. I've thrown in some transmute and more specific cards like Time of Need but looking for some really good ways to have enough mana.
I had done Cabal Coffers + Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth until I realized I can't use infinite black with Palinchron to make Oona, Queen of the Fae work. Which then eliminated Scapeshift and others, but I'm starting to include things that have some drawbacks like Dizzy Spell which I only want to tutor specific cards but make me lose most my mana.
Does anyone have any card suggestions while balancing mana ramp and tutoring?
UmbrotheUmbreon says... #3
I hope you realize you can use black mana for those B/U symbols as well as the colorless mana on Oona, Queen of the Fae :3
September 3, 2012 3:22 p.m.
Right, but what I was saying was...I can't get to infinite on black with Palinchron
September 3, 2012 3:28 p.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #5
Sure you can, as long as you're able to get UUUU from the lands you tap in addition to Cabal Coffers and whatever activates it.
September 3, 2012 4:10 p.m.
In color, I need at least two blue. Let's think about what at minimum will work saying I already have Cabal, Urborg, and 2xU down. If Urborg and let's say a forest activate Cabal, that's:Ur(tap) G(tap) Cab(+5B) U(+1U) U(+1U)=5B,2U-5B,2U(Palinchron)+untap all +tap all=5B,1G,2U-1G1U(Phantasmal Image)+untap all+tap all(+5B,1G,2U)-2B,2U(return Phantasmal Image to hand)-1G1U(Phantasmal Image)=infinite. So yes, that works, I get that part, but I have to waste turns tutoring and getting things in my hand to most importantly use the combo. I do not know if I should exchange Scapeshift , Sylvan Scrying , etc. for land enchantments. Everyone thinks its more efficient to bring back the old strategy of Cabal and Urborg? I'll keep Primeval Titan regardless.
September 3, 2012 5:37 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #7
Why not just do what I do in my BUG deck: use Coffers+Urborg as a ramp combo and focus on Palinchron itself for your infinite mana. Don't try to force the two to work together when there are better interactions available. Two of my favorites are Phantasmal Image and Deadeye Navigator , each of which go infinite with Palinchron alone.
Epochalyptik says... #2
Why exactly doesn't infinite black mana work with Oona, Queen of the Fae ?
September 3, 2012 2:53 p.m.