Day Traders: The official buyout and price spike thread
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Posted on Jan. 7, 2016, 9:14 p.m. by Epochalyptik
This will be the official thread for discussing buyouts, price spikes, price drops, and other sudden market changes.
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- This thread is for alerts and minor discussion about buyouts, price spikes, and price drops. Please do not use this thread for speculation.
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Gorgosaurusrex says... #2
I see many lightly played Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip on TCGPlayer for $43.
May 17, 2016 11:17 a.m.
Steamflogger Boss is spiking hard right now - buyout speculation for the upcoming Kaladesh sets maybe?
May 17, 2016 12:05 p.m.
GeminiSpartanX says... #5
Looks like Mesmeric Orb in in the middle of a buyout. Unsurprising since there was a 8-0-1 UB mill deck that made day 2 using a playset of those. TCG history
May 24, 2016 1:23 p.m.
Unforgivn_II says... #6
Dreadbore
is headed up, and I'm not sure why. My foil went from around $4 to $17 on tcgplayer. I haven'tbeen tracking nonfoils but I'd assume they're going up as well
May 24, 2016 10:09 p.m.
Unforgivn_II It's seeing play as a 1 of in Jund and Grixis.
Also, Celestial Colonnade has finally broken $30 TCGlow and $40 mid. Verdant Catacombs has also spiked to $70.
May 25, 2016 8:45 p.m.
Unforgivn_II says... #8
Shortly after I posted, I assumed it was to deal with Nahiri. Seems like a small increase to demand, but hey, modern demand is better than just EDH demand
May 25, 2016 11:02 p.m.
plus it kills Karn and Ugin, Tezzeret and Lilly, as far as I know, the most played PWs in Modern
May 26, 2016 2:36 a.m.
Unforgivn_II says... #10
Well sure, but those have been a force for a long time (Tezzeret not so much) and it wasn't seeing play
May 26, 2016 2:55 a.m.
The way i see it, it only takes a certain extra thing to see play to push other answers into the limelight. That it can kill creatures means its never dead either which is a bonus. Tron is probably the most popular it has even been too which means Karns and Ugins are super represented right now. I have started Tron in the past few months and just that added to my mate playing the Nahiri control deck I built for him means the chances of planeswalkers in our meta has tripled, looking at the results on SCG this is quite a global trend throughout MTG
May 26, 2016 3:40 a.m.
Honestly, Nahiri is the card that pushed it over the edge. Nahiri is now pushing Jund for being able to grind out matches, and Jund needs a clean answer to her. I think we could start to see more lists in BRx using Dreadbore as a 1-3 of because it answers PWs and Creatures, both of which are highly used in Modern.
May 26, 2016 10:56 a.m.
EverythingIsK says... #13
I want to note for those putting dreadbore in for tron planeswalkers, tron has been using Warping Wail to deal with that and other sorceries. It's been a really strong sb card.
May 26, 2016 3:10 p.m.
EverythingIsK Very true, but Dreadbore is way better against Abzan, Mirror, Jeskai Nahiri, etc.
May 26, 2016 3:23 p.m.
EverythingIsK says... #15
Non-red decks should probably run Hero's Downfall in case they need it for their meta.
May 26, 2016 3:34 p.m.
U/W/x Control has had at least 2+ (more often than not, 4) copies of Celestial Colonnade since Modern began. It's just that there hasn't been a dominant U/W/x archetype in the format since Shaun McClaren won Pro Tour Born of the Gods back in 2014.
Between Nahiri, the Harbinger getting printed, Splinter Twin/Treasure Cruise/Eye of Ugin being banned, Ancestral Vision AND Sword of the Meek being unbanned, there's a bunch of decks right now that need the 4/4 manland. Gifts Ungiven, Nahiri Control, Emeria Control, etc. are all seeing increased play.
May 26, 2016 4:58 p.m.
sylvannos I know why it spiked. I just hadn't noticed. Last I checked a couple weeks ago it was still in the mid $20s.
May 26, 2016 5:41 p.m.
@DrFunk27: I was speaking to the other people in the thread.
May 26, 2016 9:05 p.m.
Well...if you're looking to get any copies of Rishadan Port, good luck getting them under $100. They're spiking now because it wasn't reprinted in Eternal Masters.
May 29, 2016 10:02 a.m.
According to echoMTG Library of Alexandria from Arabian Nights went through the roof with an 86% rise in the last 7 days.
Also Time Vault from unlimited seems to go up pretty fast now...
May 31, 2016 6:38 p.m.
Well... Moat was just bought out apparently. It's up to $750-$1000 on tcg, from $350. Feelin real glad I bought one at $200 eight months ago.
June 20, 2016 4:24 p.m.
June 20, 2016 8:15 p.m.
IzzetGod Unsure about that specific print, but it has so many printings I'm seeing at $7 and below.
June 20, 2016 8:17 p.m.
DrFunk27: It seems to be the only printing that has spiked. No idea why. It must be a buyout.
June 20, 2016 8:21 p.m.
@IzzetGod: The $30 price tag is for foils, which there aren't that many of since the Ice Age printing didn't have them and core sets weren't opened very much.
June 20, 2016 11:14 p.m.
sylvannos: It shows here on MTGGoldfish that the non-foil copy of Brushland is $35. So idk what's going on.
June 21, 2016 7:17 a.m.
ThisIsBullshit says... #29
The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale has also spiked $500, I heard from friends last night that it was bought out by the same guy who bought out all the Moats
June 21, 2016 3:45 p.m.
@IzzetGod: Does MtG Goldfish lump all prices together? $35 seems consistent with what you posted earlier on TCG Player for foils.
It does look like non-foils have spiked up by $4 on every site though (from $7 to $11).
June 21, 2016 4:52 p.m.
sylvannos: the price seems to have went back down to the average ($10 or so) on MTGGoldfish. But no, MTGGoldfish has separate prices for foils.
June 22, 2016 4:23 p.m.
00xtremeninja says... #32
who has that much cash that they are buying out Tabernacles and Moat?!
June 22, 2016 4:43 p.m.
ThisIsBullshit Yea its some dude in NJ who owns a shop. He's responsible for a lot of the reserve list buyouts. He doesn't understand that while his "value" rises from buyouts, there isn't a big market for these cards so he's really just hurting himself by making them harder to get.
June 22, 2016 5:29 p.m. Edited.
PistonGolem says... #34
I see it this way. If the dude blows his money on rising card prices, let him. Once a card gets past a certain point for me, I just proxy the thing. I get what I want, and the dude can hoard his reserved list stuff all he wants.
June 22, 2016 6:20 p.m.
Yeah, the guys is on Facebook, Craig Berry. He is making it all public. He claims to know market strategies but the guy is a n00b. It's pretty funny actually.
June 22, 2016 6:24 p.m.
Horn of Greed is seeing a pretty good increase anyone have any insight as to why?
June 23, 2016 6:39 p.m.
Justin_Bop says... #37
Swarmy Pretty sure it's just an old card that has a some amount of demand in commander.
June 23, 2016 7:10 p.m.
rooroothepirate says... #38
Horn of greed seems silly in gitrog. It's a pretty popular deck, so that could have something to do with it.
June 24, 2016 8:12 a.m.
I don't think Nimbus Maze has been pointed out yet... pretty huge spike, and looks like a buyout or something since I can't find any recent tournament decks that used it.
June 30, 2016 9:56 p.m.
sweet! I just got a NM Nimbus Maze for 10$ after shipping :)
June 30, 2016 10:52 p.m.
Allosaurus Rider has spiked:
1,894.1% from Coldsnap
898.8% from DD:Elves Vs Goblins
1,947.4% from DD:Anthology
July 1, 2016 4:39 a.m.
ThisIsBullshit says... #42
Welcome to spoiler season lol, it's because of that Eldritch Evolution card
July 1, 2016 8:20 a.m.
Yeah once I heard about the interaction with Allosaurus Rider, it quickly sunk in how stupid Eldritch Evolution is.
You can get a turn 2 Iona, Shield of Emeria or Griselbrand.
I'm not sure if it's stronger than Goryo's Vengeance, but it seems powerful enough for Modern (and maybe even Legacy).
Granted, you need to have the absolute nuts and can lose to a single Counterspell.
The good news is Eldritch Evolution requires a creature to be sacrificed as a cost. So, once Allosaurus Rider resolves, you can hold priority and sacrifice it.
July 1, 2016 5:49 p.m.
Buy out on Lion's Eye Diamond. It's up over $225 now. Awesome. /sarcasm
July 1, 2016 10:27 p.m. Edited.
I'm surprised that Food Chain hasn't spiked yet again, considering the new Eternal Scourge out. I believe that's a 2-card infinite mana combo that casts all of your creatures.
July 1, 2016 11:05 p.m. Edited.
brokendwarf says... #46
Misthollow Griffin functions the same way with Food Chain. Obviously the Eldrazi is colorless so that makes it easier for decks running Food Chain that couldn't run Misthollow Griffin.
July 2, 2016 3:30 p.m.
Unforgivn_II says... #47
You can't pitch Eternal Scourge to Force of Will though. Consistency may be added to the deck, but Misthollow is a combo piece AND tech. However I did consider buying some Food Chains once this post was made. But all I can afford to do is trade/Puca right now and if there is a spike, I'll be too slow to get in first
July 3, 2016 1:20 a.m.
Looks like I will be buying 4 Food Chain...I don't think it matters you can't pitch scourge to force. A 3cmc colorless recurring creature is enough for Food Chain to spike. One printing? With 60 copies online? This smells like an easy buyout spec.
July 3, 2016 2:17 a.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #49
City of Traitors (~$180) and Serra's Sanctum (~$140) have been bought out on TCGPlayer. Gaea's Cradle (~$200) has only 15 copies left, all of them Lightly Played or worse. They're all sold out on SCG as well for similar prices (and a non-English Cradle costs less than an English copy!).
If you live in Europe and need any of these, I suggest you pull the trigger before MCM catches up, if they haven't already.
July 6, 2016 6:34 a.m. Edited.
GeminiSpartanX says... #50
You beat me to the punch GoldGhost012. I just noticed the City of Traitors buyout as well. Looks like I'll never get my 2nd copy for Sneak & Show now :(
TMBRLZ says... #1
That's still a significant reduction. The median was around the low $70's yesterday if I recall correctly. Much kinder than his typical $85-90+ in worth.
May 17, 2016 10:01 a.m.