Foil Phrexian Revoker in next Standard
Economics forum
Posted on June 26, 2014, 5:28 p.m. by Kravian
I have two Phyrexian Revoker s, one foil. I'm wondering if the demand (hence price) for the foil will rise with the reprint or shrink (due to more copies). I'm also looking for opinions about whether my regular revoker will see any kind of movement once Pithing Needle rotates out this fall.
TurboFagoot says... #3
Pithing Needle is also rotating, Zandl. OP mentions this, and wants opinions on how good it'll be post rotation.
Reading is tech <3
June 26, 2014 5:43 p.m.
Shut up, troll.
I was making the comparison that Phyrexian Revoker is worse in Standard than Pithing Needle is, meaning Phyrexian Revoker won't see as much play.
June 26, 2014 5:52 p.m.
TurboFagoot says... #5
You have a very loose definition of the word troll. I apologize for trying to steer conversation to where OP wanted it to go.
It is irrelevant how Revoker stacks up against Needle, as each exists in a separate standard environment. (Barring 3 months of overlap)
Which leads me to my main point. We can't predict at all how good Revoker will be until we see Khans. Predicting things for post rotation is meaningless until we see what is rotating in.
June 26, 2014 5:55 p.m.
But we do have information of how it was last time it was in Standard, which was in a format with way more relevant activated abilities (Batterskull and Jace, the Mind Sculptor say hi) and it wasn't even good then.
I'm not saying it'll be shit and we obviously have a lot of cards left to spoil before rotation, but it didn't do well before. It's worth considering from a economical standpoint.
June 26, 2014 5:58 p.m.
TurboFagoot says... #7
Each Standard format is different. I'm not saying Revoker will be a powerhouse, but a reactionary card like Revoker is defined by the threats it can stop. You mentioned Batterskull, how good is Revoker against a 4/4 even if it stops the ability to bounce it? Not very.
We just have to wait and see.
June 26, 2014 6:14 p.m.
Fair enough. But the reason a lot of people post in this forum is to make economic decisions ahead of the curve. I was hoping some expert advice could push me towards "trade now" choices or "it'll go up save it for khans" choices. But those choices aren't really worth speculating over for the non-foil, and the consensus seems to be that the foil price won't budge much.
June 26, 2014 6:23 p.m.
Ohthenoises says... #9
Kravian At best I can see it being a ~$1 rare. The needle is $1.55 currently and it does see more play in modern and legacy than Phyrexian Revoker does in those formats.
zandl brings up a good point that it will be FAR easier to remove than the needle in standard so I'd be inclined to think that would put a damper on the price.
June 26, 2014 6:42 p.m.
Schuesseled says... #10
I could see it being useful in aggro sideboards, like my own. It neutralizes every wincon u/w control has. Downside of course is that control builds are set up quite nicely to deal with it.
June 26, 2014 6:57 p.m.
But just to be clear . . . foil will remain steady, in all likelihood?
June 26, 2014 7 p.m.
Dump them now and just buy them back later. I'm probably going to do the same with my Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth s.
June 26, 2014 10:52 p.m.
I predic a small foil drop, same art issue, played in jist a few decks, many more copies
zandl says... #2
Phyrexian Revoker wasn't particularly great in Standard last time around. It IS a Modern/Legacy card, but not a highly sought-after one. Foils, however, will probably keep their value since Modern and Legacy players like their foils, after all.
I definitely wouldn't expect the price of either to rise at all.
Revoker has the benefit of having 2 power, but Pithing Needle is better for Standard. Revoker dies to all the removal in the format except for Ultimate Price and Pithing Needle , well, doesn't.
June 26, 2014 5:42 p.m.