Is it just me or does Khans of Tarkir have lots of value?
Economics forum
Posted on Oct. 14, 2014, 4:57 p.m. by TheGamer
Because think about it... A HUGE amount of the set gives value. Even rares that commonly show up in packs (i.e. Dig Through Time and Siege Rhino ) have lots of value. Anyone agree? Disagree? Share you thoughts!
And as a side note, everyone who I've seen open a Khans box (including me), made about $100 more than equilibrium.
If i get birthday money I'm buying boxes and boxes of Khans. It's like getting double the presents!
October 14, 2014 5:08 p.m.
Tell me about it miracleHat... In my box I opened 6 fetches and one was foil (which pays for the box right there) and that doesn't include the Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker I opened. And the you think of the value "bulk" there is like Savage Knuckleblade and Jeskai Ascendancy .
October 14, 2014 5:09 p.m.
Also should be noted that the charms are very sought after and decently valued as well, some even across formats.
October 14, 2014 5:09 p.m.
Lol Kravian... That is a very good investment in your money.
October 14, 2014 5:09 p.m.
Khans is slated to be the most widely cracked set in a VERY long time. Maybe of all time simply because of fetches and people wanting them for eternal formats.
Take me for example. I quit playing standard for a long time and then came back to it as a means to keep my card knowledge fresh, follow the market etc and now I have cracked 3 boxes of Khans and now have almost a full playset of all fetches and sold most of the other cards that won't see play in modern and kept the ones that seem good for EDH or that I'm planning on using. I have made profit off of doing this. ALOT of money. Dumping cards I'm not running had basically paid me to buy more boxes.
Now to directly answer your question. You are 100% right. There are a ton of money cards in khans besides fetches. Some of them will only be good in standard but many others will have viability in eternal formats like Dig Through Time .
Get your boxes now kids.
October 14, 2014 5:16 p.m.
Its alot of hype so if u can getcit and sell it quick sure but its gonna drop A LOT soon
October 14, 2014 5:24 p.m.
Why do you say that EmblemMan?
It's a similar set to zen and people loved the crap outta that set and now it's close to 500 for a box.
Khan is only going to do the same.
October 14, 2014 5:36 p.m.
Bellock86: I definitely agree. You can make a lot of profit off of sets like these with cards that catch people's eyes.
EmblemMan: I realize that a lot of it is hype (like Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker being $40) but in the end when the dust settles, these card will still be a lot of $$$.
Caligula: That's a very good point you made. Khans is IMO and many others opinions, one of the greatest sets in a long time. People loved what khans had to offer, and there are fetches too.
October 14, 2014 5:43 p.m.
@TheGamer exactly. Fetch value is just going to make boxes jump once they rotate out so instantly there's value there if you want to sit on a box for a couple years and we have only begun to get into the value. As more players test cards out were gonna see more value come from khans
Ex. Dig Through Time , Rakshasa Deathdealer , Jeskai Ascendancy
October 14, 2014 5:50 p.m.
asasinater13 says... #12
I think we should look at sarkhan like nissa, people thought it was all value in the hype that would soon die, but she's still sitting with an expensive price tag. He's hyped because he's good and well-played. not going to drop soon.
October 14, 2014 6:34 p.m.
Named_Tawyny says... #13
Singles are going to have to drop soon, asasinater13, it's just economics. If you can get $200 worth of cards (theoretical EV of a box of khans because I'm too lazy to look it up right now, but it's certainly above the price) in a $100 box, then the singles market disappears - you'd have to be crazy to buy singles when boxes give that much more value.
Since the price of boxes (while in print) isn't going to go up significantly, that means that the cost of singles (again, while Khans is in print) is going to come down. Basic supply and demand.
October 14, 2014 6:55 p.m.
Caligula and others, the reason I say that it will drop soon is simply because a lot of the cards are made just for standard and those that are used in eternal formats will drop because there are an increasing amount of people opening it and there simply be too much of it for people to care. Some of it has long term value sure but only a few years from now will it actually increase after a drop in standard.
October 14, 2014 7:19 p.m.
TheRedDude says... #15
Why people buy khans: Fetches
Why Khans is popular: Fetches
Why people play tornaments in khans: to win packs and get fetches
Why people Play khans cards: some of them are fetches
What people do when they dont get fetches: revel in the value of the pack they opened, because the uncommons together are worth more than some non bulk rares
October 14, 2014 8:43 p.m.
nutellaisgreaterthanlife says... #16
I'm buying a couple of boxes: 1 to open and sell cards and use cards cause hey, who doesn't love cards and fetches, and the other to put away for a few years. I mean look at Zendikar boxes. About $500 a box, and $20 a pack. Maybe Khans wont go up that much, but in 4 or 5 years they could be worth $300 each. And if they aren't, they definitely won't go DOWN. Awesome and really safe investment, gonna make tons o' bank. Only problem is having that box in my room for the next 4 years just waiting to be opened......
October 14, 2014 9:33 p.m.
JonathanSamurai says... #17
Unfortunately, I've lost big on every pack I've opened. So I just ordered singles instead. Finished my Mardu deck at around $30.
October 14, 2014 10:40 p.m.
I'm not going to lie. I thought that this set was meh. But as I played it more and more, I find that this set is, well, outrageous. But if we take out the fetches, it almost LOOSES all the value aside from some of the more valuable cards, aka Dig Through Time. I'm note sure if it be as spendy as Innistrad though
October 15, 2014 6:41 p.m.
TheRedDude says... #19
all of the foil common lands are owrth more than like 1.25
October 15, 2014 6:49 p.m.
JonathanSamurai says... #20
Like most blocks, 90% of the great value cards are rare lands and Planeswalkers. There are plenty of "junk" rares to go around. I still remember pulling 3 Firedrinker Satyr out of 5 packs. My entire life I've pulled just 3 walkers and maybe 1 rare land. Overall I've lost more than I've gained.
October 15, 2014 7:23 p.m.
TheRedDude says... #21
well, with this set, you are more likely to gain then in most other sets
October 15, 2014 7:57 p.m.
Its_Johnny_Bravo says... #23
Compare this to new phyrexia, innistrad. Being more recent sets, if you compare the cards they have to these sets there's really no competition. Wait for set with fewer mana requirements.
October 17, 2014 7:01 a.m.
TheRedDude says... #24
theros was meh. this set is all about value. Are you saying that just cuz these cards have more colors, they are bad? these cards are valuable for a reason
October 17, 2014 7:35 a.m.
Its_Johnny_Bravo says... #25
They're valuable now because they're in standard. Sorin at $30??! Will be 5$ in a years time... The only cards in this set with real value are the fetch lands and that I will admit is worth it alone. But economically if you're looking to invest then this set isn't worth it. There are some good cards, but definitely no obliterators, snapcasters, karns, swords, etc..
October 18, 2014 6:34 a.m.
TheRedDude says... #26
several cards in the set are seeing eternal playin 3-4 years people will be paying for sealed khans product at 3-4 times its original price. They will want the fetches digs and any other cards that end up being played.the fetches alone will probably double or x2.5 the set's value long term
October 18, 2014 8:19 a.m.
Its_Johnny_Bravo says... #27
i would bet that you there isnt 5 cards in this set other than the fetches that over the next 2 years will go up even 5$ in price after standard rotation.. the key here is to buy/trade for fetches as singles since the rest is virtually worthless... delve is interesting but requires a graveyard- most modern/legacy decks run graveyard eliminators in sideboards if they're smart so i dont see that being a thing. I agree that the fetch lands make this set valuable 100%, but dont buy sealed product or youre wasting your money.. instead of dropping $100 on a booster box, drop $100 on 10 fetches and watch your money triple... My overall point is the set, in general, has little to offer. Stick to the cards that have value and invest there.
October 18, 2014 9:06 a.m.
JonathanSamurai says... #28
Okay, two friends and I are splitting a box (which is sold out everywhere around my area), so we shall see. My friend split a box with another guy and got lots of good pulls including a foil flooded strands. So I'm hoping our luck is just as good. Thankfully, we all play different styles as well so trading should be pretty smooth.
October 18, 2014 9:12 a.m.
Named_Tawyny says... #32
$10 is where I expect them to be in a couple of months, but already? Wow.
October 19, 2014 7:34 a.m.
Its_Johnny_Bravo says... #33
Posting said nm. So well see, but even played would be fine for that price. eBay is my go to place for singles. Last week I bought 4 foil korlash originals for 22$ and about a month ago got a foil kozilek for 16$
October 19, 2014 8:27 a.m.
TheRedDude says... #34
hmmmm... well if thats true then my plan to trade commons for fetches should be able to work
October 19, 2014 8:28 a.m.
Its_Johnny_Bravo says... #35
Sounds like sarcasm, but funny enough is there's people like me who make a lot of money on magic. I play very little, I'm more of an investor. I've come to find that these little pieces of paper we call a game are actually a 50-200% profit index if you understand in depth the supply and demand of a certain card or set. Innistrad for example- with a $500 initial investment, sealed product would see a 100% profit index as the price doubled. Most stocks, bonds, and bridge loans can't do that. Especially not in a years time.
October 19, 2014 11:32 a.m.
JonathanSamurai says... #36
So. 1 Sarkhan and 1 Flooded Strand. Worst. Box. Ever.
October 19, 2014 2:24 p.m.
TheRedDude says... #38
i do actually have a plan to trade commons for fetches.
October 19, 2014 7:38 p.m.
miracleHat says... #39
Something that i am surprised hasn't been mentioned yet is the fact that besides the planeswalkers, the mythics are mostly crap (money wise):
Zurgo Helmsmasher
Ugin's Nexus
,
Empty the Pits
,
seriously!
October 19, 2014 7:43 p.m.
TheRedDude says... #40
just wait until they print fate reforged, people are going to be rolling in the money when they sell the Ugin's Nexus that just went up in price because of the overpowered extra turn card that they shouldnt have printed, but did for flavor reasons
October 19, 2014 7:50 p.m.
Its_Johnny_Bravo says... #41
If you are able to trade commons for fetches I would jump on that opportunity- that's awesome.
October 19, 2014 9:12 p.m.
I opened 3 packs... And got $45 worth of cards... Seeeeeeems good.
October 20, 2014 11:04 a.m.
ThisIsBullshit says... #43
All the packs I've opened have been stuff I don't want to play or is bad in EDH, so I think there isn't a whole lot of value in the set except the fetches and maybe a few other cards. Everything's probably inflated because of Standard.
October 20, 2014 11:24 a.m.
Quadsimotto says... #45
I know i am kicking myself for not having bought two or three more boxes when i had the chance. Now when i get back i will only have hopes that the shop i play at will have a few boxes i can buy.
October 21, 2014 9:01 a.m.
JonathanSamurai says... #46
In the end only fetches will matter. The walkers may hold some value after rotation but int opinion Sarkhan isn't as good as his original. I don't know much about Sorin, but I've heard he isn't super great.
October 21, 2014 9:34 a.m.
TheRedDude says... #48
well, i know. the other cards of value in the set are to be traded for fetches. Thats why the set has value
October 21, 2014 3:26 p.m.
JonathanSamurai says... #49
I have a friend who has like 4 fetches. I hate that guy lol. When we split the box I drafted rares to complete my deck instead of value though. He got his fetches from splitting other boxes.
miracleHat says... #2
Yes. I have had three friends open up 1 box each and each of them got over 6 fetches (22 in total). the other cards though have a lot of value as well...
October 14, 2014 5:02 p.m.