Judge survival of the fittest

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Posted on April 29, 2014, 1:24 p.m. by Hellsing

Wonder if any one is interested in a judge Survival of the Fittest . I know it's a very expensive card but I can trade it for less. I have looked for prices but there seems to be very little to go on. What would you value the card for?

Magiclover318 says... #2

On starcitygames.com I see it for $350... haha

April 29, 2014 1:25 p.m.

Hellsing says... #3

Magiclover318 Yeah, the cheapest I found was $250.

April 29, 2014 1:47 p.m.

maiden77 says... #4

it has had a crazy spike recently and was trying to win one on ebay for my cube, I would get rid now whilst you can at this price, as there is no way it will stay at $350, last year it was $80!! and there is no reason for it to spike like this apart from legacy speculation (which is most likely what made it spike)

April 29, 2014 2:01 p.m.

maiden77 says... #5

i would be interested but depends on condition, must be mint and it would depend on your value of it etc

April 29, 2014 2:03 p.m.

Magiclover318 says... #6

Yeah I don't even really think it's that good? I don't watch legacy or play it, but the judges foil is a nice looking card for it

April 29, 2014 2:05 p.m.

maiden77 says... #7

it is a good looking card but its only legal in vintage making it almost useless to everyone apart from casual and EDH (which is just an extension of casual really) and the speculation came from people hoping it would get unbanned in legacy and therefore explode in value, said unbanning did not happen so it should plummet back down. and I bloody hope so as I want one!)

April 29, 2014 2:11 p.m.

shift says... #8

I'm heavily interested (omnath edh) email me at [email protected] and see what we can work out

April 29, 2014 2:31 p.m.

Magiclover318 says... #9

I just don't see how it's good?

April 29, 2014 2:33 p.m.

shift says... #10

For older formats it's both a discard the creatures you want in the grave plus a search for the answer you need, for edh it's "I only can play 1 of this so I wanna go get it"

April 29, 2014 2:39 p.m.

maiden77 says... #11

i have never played it in legacy or vintage where it really breaks the game but it will still be similar to EDH, where it lets you bin either useless creatures and find awesome ones, or bin something useful to the grave (where you want it) and then find something you want for your hand just for one mana, its amazing in EDH and is banned for a reason in Legacy.

April 29, 2014 2:41 p.m.

shift says... #12

Plus I can search for eldrazi, discard it to save anything in my graveyard or just extra shuffle effects

April 29, 2014 2:41 p.m.

Hellsing says... #13

maiden77 Condition is near mint.shift Ok.

April 29, 2014 2:49 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #14

Repeatable tuition is without a doubt one of the most broken things in the game. There's a reason it's banned in formats. In competitive EDH it's a staple. The card is absolutely nuts.

April 29, 2014 2:50 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #15

maiden77 - EDH isn't a casual format.

see here for the latest tournament rankings.

April 29, 2014 2:52 p.m.

gufymike says... #16

ChiefBell that's duel commander rankings. EDH is both competitive and casual, it's not one or the other. But mtgcommander.net rules and so on (multiplayer) is usually more casual than competitive and why the RC won't make ban lists for competitive players. But it is in all how you approach the game and format.

April 29, 2014 3:20 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #17

I know that's duel commander rankings. It's still a type of EDH........

Of course it's all in how you approach it, but to say EDH is casual is neglecting a vast part of the venn diagram.

April 29, 2014 3:30 p.m.

gufymike says... #18

I would argue that it is more about broken casual than competitive, the only difference here is that in broken casual, you're trying to do absurd stuff to win the game as earlier as possible, where competitive is more about grinding through the day with the best deck possible. Making competitive much smaller than you give it credit.

April 29, 2014 3:43 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #19

I sort of agree. The majority of people playing that broken casual format which is like a really shitty, bad version of competitive, and then other plays treat it like mini vintage, where you only need a few copies of ABUR lands, instead of a playset of all of them.

It doesn't matter either way. It's still a competitive format.

April 29, 2014 3:44 p.m.

JakeHarlow says... #20

For EDH this is an incalculably strong card. ChiefBell is quite correct.

I really like the judge's foil on this thing.

April 29, 2014 3:52 p.m.

Magiclover318 says... #21

Hmm I do like it, however with Mayael the Anima as my commander, I don't want to discard creatures, I don't even want them in my hand haha.

Maybe with my Phenax, God of Deception edh though? Idk.

April 29, 2014 3:54 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #22

It's the wrong card for Mayael. You want Scroll Rack . This lets you manipulate your hand and library so you can play your good stuff for cheap.

April 29, 2014 3:55 p.m.

Magiclover318 says... #23

I have Scroll Rack . Yeah I wasn't planning on using it for her haha

April 29, 2014 3:56 p.m.

ChiefBell says... #24

I use it to change late game mana dorks like Birds of Paradise or Noble Hierarch into things like Karmic Guide or Sun Titan

April 29, 2014 4 p.m.

Magiclover318 says... #25

Good point. I want Noble Hierarch haha its too expensive

April 29, 2014 4:02 p.m.

maiden77 says... #26

[chiefbell] i hear what you are saying about there being a competitive option for EDH, but EDH the format is casual, duel commander is a separate format with a separate banned list for a reason, EDH is casual by its very nature and inception, dual commander is a competitive 1v1 archtype. But yeah, i should have mentioned both, my bad. I would certainly agree that survival would own in the competitive scene of EDH too.

April 29, 2014 5:10 p.m.

maiden77 says... #27

ChiefBell been so long since I tagged on here lol

April 29, 2014 5:11 p.m.

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