Linvala, Keeper of Value

Economics forum

Posted on Sept. 2, 2013, 2:52 p.m. by rache

I understand she's a great card but why is Linvala, Keeper of Silence so expensive?

Epochalyptik says... #2

Moved to Economics (yeah, new forum).

Linvala, Keeper of Silence is a decent frame with a great ability. It shuts down so many key abilities, and there aren't many similar effects. Additionally, Linvala, Keeper of Silence is a mythic from an out-of-print set that was not heavily opened.

September 2, 2013 2:58 p.m.

rache says... #3

I was wondering when yal would add such a forum. Are their any decks that actually use Linvala or is it just her combination of rarity and uniqueness?byu

September 2, 2013 3:09 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... #4

I don't really know about sanctioned formats, but she's very powerful in EDH.

September 2, 2013 3:15 p.m.

MTG_Player says... #5

modern pod deck too, she's a great utility card.

September 2, 2013 3:22 p.m.

Zuckfat says... #6

I use her in modern white decks, she's great for reasons already stated

September 2, 2013 3:27 p.m.

rache says... #7

@Epochalyptik I heard EDH was being made into a sanctioned format with tournaments. Is this true?

September 2, 2013 3:30 p.m.

Zuckfat says... #8

Edh is a santioned event at my lgs

September 2, 2013 3:34 p.m.

the3rdH0kage says... #9

By sanctioned he means by Wizards for Official tournaments, just because a shop has Commander tournaments doesn't mean it's sanctioned.

September 2, 2013 3:37 p.m.

rache says... #10

What the3rdH0kage said

September 2, 2013 3:43 p.m.

rache says... #11

@Zuckfat I use her in my bant deck and she is good (don't get me wrong) but not 30 dollars good.

September 2, 2013 3:45 p.m.

the3rdH0kage says... #12

Like I showed the owner of my LGS the Hero format that is on here, and he liked it so he said if we can get interest up he will start having Hero pods/tournaments. But obviously the Hero format isn't a sanctioned format. It was made by a user on here.

September 2, 2013 3:45 p.m.

rache says... #13

We do two headed giant tournaments for fnm at my lgs

September 2, 2013 3:49 p.m.

Sanctioned events are those officially supported by WOTC. Commander is not a sanctioned format. It's popular, and there are Commander tournaments and events, but that doesn't mean it's a sanctioned format.

WOTC knows Commander is a popular format, and they continue to develop products to support Commander, but I don't know of any plans for WOTC to sanction Commander. The primary reason they probably haven't is Commander was created by an independent group. Sanctioning Commander would mean taking the developmental power from that group because WOTC itself would need to oversee the format.

September 2, 2013 4:21 p.m.

Linvala, Keeper of Silence , from what I've seen at least, is highly played in modern, specifically as a sideboard staple in Gifts and R/W/U.

September 2, 2013 4:46 p.m.

GoldGhost012 says... #16

So her price is probably not going to drop anytime soon...

September 2, 2013 4:50 p.m.

@GoldGhost012: Her price will never drop.

September 2, 2013 4:53 p.m.

GoldGhost012 says... #18

I'd better get her now, in case her price rises again then!

September 2, 2013 4:56 p.m.

@GoldGhost012: That's not a very good economical idea. The smart thing to do would have been to pick them up a year ago. Speculation is a fickle beast, and it requires a strong understanding of the secondary market and game economics as a whole.

September 2, 2013 5 p.m.

bman5604 says... #20

Best time to buy anything modern is after the modern season. Which will be coming up soonish.

September 2, 2013 5:50 p.m.

GoldGhost012 says... #21

I would have picked her up a year ago, but I had no idea she existed back then. Not to mention I was just beginning to really understand the complexities of the game.

September 2, 2013 5:57 p.m.

Zuckfat says... #22

Hmmm.. interesting, well my lgs certainly treats it like a sanctioned event, you need a dci number and have to adhere to the ban list and banned players can't play in it etc.

September 2, 2013 6:53 p.m.

rache says... #23

@GoldGhost012 I don't want her to drop, I already have mine lol.

September 2, 2013 7:39 p.m.

rache says... #24

@fluffybunnypants no card gets the price tag Linvala has as just a staple sideboard card

September 2, 2013 7:43 p.m.

@rache: You'd be surprised. Consider all the factors that have been mentioned so far:

  • Sees sideboard play in Tier 1 Modern.
  • Sees play in EDH.
  • Is mythic rare.
  • Is from a small, relatively unopened set that is out of print.
  • Has a powerful ability with no equally-powerful substitutes.
  • Has a decent frame for its mana cost.

A $30 price tag may be somewhat high, but I don't think it's unreasonable in this case.

September 2, 2013 7:46 p.m.

rache says... #26

Tack on gorgeous artwork and a creature type many Magic players collect as well and I guess I can see it but why does gifts run it?

September 2, 2013 8:08 p.m.

It combats some of the most used graveyard hate in modern, shuts down Kiki-jiki, spliter twin, knight of the reliquary, griselbrand/goryo's vengeance deck as a whole, etc.

September 2, 2013 8:36 p.m.

GoldGhost012 says... #28

Plus, just getting just into the set it was printed in, it also shuts down Eldrazi Spawns, basically making them vanilla 0/1 tokens.

September 2, 2013 8:52 p.m.

Barandis says... #29

Linvala is an amazing card in a host of white sideboards, and particularly with Scavenging Ooze threatening to take a full part of the metagame, she is seeing some maindeck play too. I just transferred her out of my Melira Pod sideboard into the main, and I'm pretty convinced that's the right call at the moment. That only increases her value.

Her price has been slowly and steadily increasing for a while, but I have the feeling that this Grand Prix may show her to be good enough in the current metagame to boost the price some. I wouldn't expect her to drop as long as Modern is a format, and she may move up more quickly after Detroit if the cards fall right.

September 2, 2013 10:16 p.m.

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