Mires, Foothills, Gideon
Economics forum
Posted on Nov. 8, 2015, 11:17 p.m. by JKLawson89
Should I buy into these cards? Someone I know is trying to sell playset of Mires and Foothills (KTK) for $80 and Gideon for $30. Should I wait, will they lose traction soon or after rotation? Thanks.
Servo_Token says... #3
Buy the fetches, hold off on gideon unless you need it to play.
edit; ninja'd, but i'm glad that it seems that i'm not entirely out of left field on my econ advice..
November 8, 2015 11:20 p.m. Edited.
mathimus55 says... #5
The fetches you should have already picked up by now, but yes if you don't have them get your play set of all of them at the very least. They'll just keep going up until the next reprinting however long down the road, but more than likely you've got plenty of time until then.
Gideon I'm getting out of already. It will be VERY hard for him to maintain this price unless he stays an auto-3/4 of in any deck running white. If he gets back down to $20 or so I'll move back in but until then I already got out of my set at $40 per.
November 8, 2015 11:22 p.m.
JKLawson89 says... #6
So $80 for a playset of mires isnt steep, good to hear, Gideon is just so enticing!
November 8, 2015 11:23 p.m.
mathimus55 says... #7
$20 mires is about as good of a price as you'll get for many years to come. Unless you plan of playing Gideon enough to make it worth the investment I would definitely stay away.
November 8, 2015 11:29 p.m.
I am going to get a lot of hate for this but dont buy the fetches unless you are going to play them the reason they are above 20 except maybe delta is because of standard so post rotation I could definitely see them going down. They see a ton of play in standard every single one of them and the ones that only see minimal play in modern like mires will most likely drop after rotation because it cuts out a big need for them. My reasoning for this is the fact that they were all under 20 until the new lands for STANDARD came out so I see no reason they should maintain that price if they did not demand that price before that. Sure they will go up possibly above what they are now but not for at least 3 years I would say.
November 8, 2015 11:41 p.m.
EmblemMan, fetches will ONLY trend upwards. They're played in every format out there and in every deck with only a few exceptions. While non-blue fetches may drop, they won't fall more than a dollar before rising up again. Blue fetches will just stagnate for a bit before climbing again.
November 8, 2015 11:43 p.m.
JA14732 I am not going to argue about this but I would normally argue that that is wrong or potentially wrong people said the same thing about shocks and will continue to say these things about eternal format staples when in reality it doesnt apply to every staple. But whatever people can take my advice with a grain of salt doesnt hurt me any I just wanted to give a perspective other than "its played in other formats it can only go up" which is the only reason people can think of for anything involving economics.
November 8, 2015 11:51 p.m.
JKLawson89 says... #11
I was thinking they prlly do alright for Grixis control and Zoo decks, but Im new to Modern haha
November 8, 2015 11:52 p.m.
JKLawson89 says... #12
I bought in on Hero of Iroas back when he was Standard at $1, bought four, played with it loved it, traded for as many as possible, sold 10 of them at $9, kept a playset...so I know the risks, but thanks everyone for the advice I like discussion.
November 8, 2015 11:56 p.m.
Thats a good buy JKLawson89 I almost did the same with Kolaghan's Command but didnt want to buy them at the time that I tested with them. Anyway yes they are played in modern but ever since khans released all the way until bfz released they were the same price and only went up when bfz came out hence a big standard dominance on their price change. People know modern and they know economics involving things like them. Everyone is buying them and holding them and because of that they wont really increase because you dont really have the situation anymore of all the standard players are dumping their modern staples and people are snatching them up for pennies because people understand (to an extent) eternal value and thats why the age old arguement of "it sees play in blah blah blah itll only go up" doesnt work anymore for all cards Still you are getting them for slightly cheaper than what they are actually worth and it might be worth grabbing them in case you think you will play them in the future.
November 9, 2015 12:15 a.m.
I've got to agree with EmblemMan. In the long run, $20 for Mires likely isn't bad, but if you want them as cheap as possible, waiting for rotation is probably your best bet.
I'm not sure how long the guy is willing to hold them though, so it's tough.
November 9, 2015 2:53 a.m. Edited.
JakeHarlow says... #15
Fetches will rise steadily to settle around $30 (will take some years, but it will happen if we don't see reprints for a while), Gideon will plummet to around $8 after he rotates. I don't see him as an all-star in any eternal format.
November 9, 2015 2:55 a.m.
Wooded Foothills and Bloodstained Mire are played in Burn and Jund, which are big parts of modern. Zendikar fetches aren't standard legal. However, they still have a high price tag. I know there a fewer Zendikar fetches than Khans, but the price tag is from the amount they are played.
November 9, 2015 3:59 a.m.
One thing is for sure. You'll never see 15$ khans fetch after 2-3 years. History will repeat itself. Remember zen fetches?
November 10, 2015 7:54 p.m.
Gideon has already fallen 2.5 bucks in just a day... so yeah... don't focus on him, get the lands.
Hopefully he'll fall to $5 - $10 eventually.
November 11, 2015 10:22 p.m.
JKLawson89 says... #19
I honestly don't see Gideon falling under $15. I could see him in control decks, token decks, Abzan decks, and Ally decks all in Modern. People play anthems, they can be removed but emblems cant, a control deck pumping him up enough to -4 him then start +1ing to swing 6 every turn seems fine, seems fine for when the finisher comes too, esp. if it's something like AEtherling, I could see him in Abzan he comes out pushes your stuff out of bolt range. For standard, I think he gets better, if Oath brings any new allies, which would be weird if they didnt do that, I think he springs back up, is he worth $30-40 imo no, its Jace holding hands with him that is keeping him that price.
MADMatt7777 says... #2
Buy the Fetches, wait on Gideon. fetches see play in every other format, so they will maintain their value, Gideon will not. he will drop like a rock once rotation nears.
November 8, 2015 11:20 p.m.