New set for eternal formats?

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Posted on Oct. 16, 2013, 5:02 p.m. by Apoptosis

So, I've never played commander -just standard since coming back to MtG a year ago. But I've considered getting into Legacy, as I have a lot of old cards (albeit with a huge gap between ~1997 and 2012). This huge gap is one reason I've avoided Legacy.

Onto my question.

I know the cards within the new set are legal for eternal play (i.e. Legacy). Is it worth trying to pick up a box with this in mind (as a way to start to fill those holes)?

Devonin says... #2

Like, you want to buy a box of a current set to get cards for Legacy? Pretty much a terrible idea.

Most sets have between 1 and 5 cards total that will see any useful play in Legacy, and your odds of getting any let alone playsets are pretty much zero. It is going to be way more cost and time effective, if you want to play Legacy, to decide on your deck, perhaps based on which cards you already have (especially which dual lands you already have as they are very expensive) and then just buy singles to finish off the deck you want to run.

October 16, 2013 5:11 p.m.

gufymike says... #3

Depends on what you want to play in legacy. Say you decide to play merfolk, yes this would be a good pick up, that new merfolk rogue is a beast and should be a legacy chase card, like Scavenging Ooze was. If you want to play something like shardless bug, it might be worth waiting on to see what happens (though the merfolk might be used in there also). Really, this new merfolk (infernal nemesis) is going to be a legacy card.

Now, the rest of it isn't going to see much play in legacy as they don't impact that format that much. There might be one or two more cards that legacy will eat up, but not that much. I would argue, that you buy these decks because you're a commander player and like commander and buy the singles or trade for them if you're into legacy. As a person who enjoys both, I'm buying the decks and a few singles of some cards.

And honestly I highly suggest you get into both legacy and edh, it can put those older cards to use, because quite a few of your older cards won't be usable outside of edh. So buy the decks and have the best of both worlds.

October 16, 2013 5:11 p.m.

TurboFagoot says... #4

The best way to get into Legacy is to find a deck you want to play and just buy it. Chances are, from a new set, only 0-2 cards are actually legacy playable on average.

Buying singles is much easier, cost efficient, and faster.

October 16, 2013 5:14 p.m.

What makes Legacy Legacy is that there are a whole bunch of random cards out there that were never supposed to see play together that make broken decks, or cards that were piss poor R&D choice (Jace the Car Payment and Stoneforge anyone) being allowed in the same deck together.

You're probably better off just getting the cards required per usual.

On a side note: When I came back from my hiatus someone told me Lion's Eye Diamond was worth $80-$100, I laughed in their face, and then went and dug mine out of storage when I realized they weren't trying to troll me.

October 16, 2013 5:16 p.m.

Apoptosis says... #6

Good advice. No idea what to actually play in legacy.

Commander looks interesting, but I don't know anyone locally who plays it. We used to play something along the lines of that format way back in the day, called it something like "around the world": all players in a circle, range of spells/effects 2x players to either side, you could attack to immediate left or right, everything else like normal play (60+ card decks, 20 life, 4x max except restricted), last player standing wins. God was that fun. I had 4x Rogue Skycaptain that would beatdown, then pass 2x away so it couldn't attack me, inevitably they drifted farther and farther away. Good times.

October 16, 2013 5:51 p.m.

I'm not really sure anyone knows what to play in Legacy, it's not like it's short on options. I mean there's MUD, RUG Delver, Delverless RUG, Manaless Dregde, Dredge, Death and Taxes, Dream Halls, Reanimator, Omnitell, Belcher, Sneak and Show, Elves, Merfolk, Shardless BUG, Patriot Aggro, ANT, The Epic Storm and many more that I can't think of.

I actually saw a guy go 2-0 at a legacy tourney near me with a $40 green stompy deck. I got a kick out of that. So, it's not really like in Standard where there's going to be a clear frontrunners, because most of the decks are equally busted due to the depth of card pool in the format.

October 16, 2013 6:09 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... #8

Wait, is this about EDH or Legacy?

I'm just gonna move this to Economics because it's about cost-effective ways to get into older formats, it seems.

October 16, 2013 6:14 p.m.

Tradeylouish says... #9

Just to make the purpose of this post clear to readers:

It seems that the poster is considering buying some number of the new C13 Commander Preconstructed decks, scheduled for release later this year, in order to acquire Legacy cards.

The original post was a bit unclear about this, and it appears some readers have become confused.

I'm pretty sure I have interpreted this correctly, but I might be wrong.

October 16, 2013 11:10 p.m.

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