The next Snappy?
Economics forum
Posted on April 16, 2014, 4:53 p.m. by kmcree
I'm interested to hear people's predictions for what cards from RTR will skyrocket after rotation like Snapcaster Mage and Liliana of the Veil did. I think card speculation is pretty fun, and I'm looking for a few cards to throw some money into. A couple that I personally see going up are the shock lands (obviously), Deathrite Shaman , and Abrupt Decay . Any other predictions?
APPLE01DOJ says... #3
Abrupt Decay is on the rise already. When Wizards unban DRS it will be an insane price. combine that with legacy driving it up as well. It's one of the best 1 drops ever printed.
I can't see any other cards making much more of a shockwave than those u already listed.
Voice of Resurgence will most likely rise. Not as mandatory as Lilly but too damn good to pass up and used more and more in modern. I know it won't be the next Tarmogoyf because of G/W ...but it's damn near close. It's supportive strategy is simply to have a board presence, which typically works out well, even while playing defensively.
April 16, 2014 5:03 p.m.
Servo_Token says... #4
I'm also pretty big into Abrupt Decay (40 copies, which is the 2nd most i've ever done).
I can also only assume that Voice of Resurgence will go up, given its usefulness in modern.
April 16, 2014 5:05 p.m.
actiontech says... #5
A little too late to buy in, but foil Chromatic Lantern is a good bet as an EDH staple. Cyclonic Rift (esp foil) is pretty good for the same reason. Supreme Verdict and Sphinx's Revelation also see play in modern; verdict is arguably the best boardwipe ever printed. Foils of that especially should shoot up in the next couple of years.
April 16, 2014 5:18 p.m.
What are your opinions on Sphinx's Revelation ? I've been debating about that card for a while. I have a few copies, and am leaning towards ditching them. I just don't see it maintaining enough modern play to warrant $20. Thoughts?
April 16, 2014 5:21 p.m.
Unforgivn_II says... #7
I keep hearing that Domri Rade sees enough play in modern to warrant investment. I'm not a big believer in that, so I don't expect anything like the staples you mentioned. However I can't see him dropping any further after the Standard liquidation happens. So he's safe to hold his value (I expect $15-20)
April 16, 2014 5:24 p.m.
actiontech says... #8
A quick mtgtop8 search of (non-regular) events show a lot of top 8's running rev, usually only a 2-of though. It's mythic and expensive now, but it may be a candidate for the "drop when it rotates, then climbs gradually" type of curve.
April 16, 2014 5:25 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #9
Snapcaster Mage and Liliana of the Veil did not skyrocket after rotation. Their price spikes came months after rotation, when Modern season drew closer.
Sphinx's Revelation gets a large part of its price from Standard. Once the Standard players stop using it, demand will shrink considerably. It's still good in Modern, but the demand won't be enough to maintain the current price.
April 16, 2014 5:26 p.m.
notamardybum says... #10
kmcree UW control doesn't even run Sphinx's Revelation , theres not a lot of control decks that do run it because it is very slow, but there are a few. You might want to ditch them and pick some up later when they go down in price if you plan on using them.
April 16, 2014 5:26 p.m.
@Unforgivn_II: Domri is currently at $30. No way he'll stay that high. You're definitely better off unloading him now.
@actiontech: Are those modern events? Interesting, I didn't think it saw that much modern play.
April 16, 2014 5:27 p.m.
Epochalyptik: Right, I'm not necessarily looking for cards that will spike immediately after rotation, but more like cards that will see modern play and will rise in value over time after they're rotated out of standard. Basically looking at good longer term investment cards.
April 16, 2014 5:30 p.m.
notamardybum: That's pretty much exactly what I've been thinking.
April 16, 2014 5:31 p.m.
shocklands, abrupt decay, DRS if he's unbanned (he probably will anyway). I've got a box of RTR that I havent' opened.
April 16, 2014 5:58 p.m.
Drs was soley propped up by modern and legacy, the ban saw him drop like $1.50, hell deffinetly dip come rotation but easily rise over time, and then prolly take a huge leap if hes unbanned in a few years, any deck that wants him wants 4.
April 16, 2014 6:02 p.m.
AnagonLordofSnakes says... #16
All the cards mentioned above and foil versions of Tavern Swindler
April 16, 2014 6:17 p.m.
Unforgivn_II says... #17
@kmcree - I did already. I may not have been clear. I wouldn't invest in him now, I would after rotation. I mean, I would have done the same with Lili and Snap too, since they did the same thing (drop, then climb).
April 16, 2014 6:24 p.m.
Oh yeah foil Wear / Tear , foil Balustrade Spy and Undercity Informer
April 16, 2014 6:24 p.m.
Young Pyromancer . This guy is absolutely insane in Legacy and Vintage. He's not bad in Modern for Delver lists and transformational Storm sideboards. Definitely Snapcaster Mage /Stoneforge Mystic levels of power, but since he's uncommon, he won't go that high. However, I wouldn't be surprised if he hits $7. Just look at uncommons like Sensei's Divining Top , Kitchen Finks , etc.
April 16, 2014 6:47 p.m.
actiontech says... #21
@kmcree - yes, those are modern (not including "regular") events. I agree it will drop after rotation, so that'd be the time to buy them if you're going to. It's a good enough card for casual/EDH that I seriously doubt it will plummet as much as Epoch seems to think, and modern is constantly shifting so I wouldn't count it out in that format just yet. Remember it is mythic.
Better question: do we sell Mutavault now and pick it up post rotation or will that card hold value? I have a playset of foils I'm not sure what to do with =)
April 16, 2014 6:56 p.m.
I'm holding on to my Mutavault s, mostly just to play it safe. I got them for a pretty good deal a few months ago (roughly $25 each), and I'm expecting they'll eventually make their way back up and settle between $35-$45 in a year or so once everything's all said and done. You could probably make a little more money selling them now, then reacquiring them right after rotation, and then holding on to them, but I probably won't do that.
April 16, 2014 6:59 p.m.
I've been picking up tons of shocklands and been buying loads of ravnica boosters. Im also collecting abrupt decay.
April 16, 2014 7:05 p.m.
actiontech says... #24
Oh and back on topic, foil shocklands are your biggest moneymakers in RTR. They're already $25ish and I seriously doubt they're ever going to be cheaper. Kind of a higher-end card set to "buy in" but these things could/will be ridiculous in a few years.
April 16, 2014 7:13 p.m.
The problem is that the more expensive the card gets, the harder it is to sell.
April 16, 2014 7:30 p.m.
CastleSiege says... #26
Foil Abrupt Decays are probably a gold mine. I currently have one and it was sitting at $50 and rising last I checked. Stocking up on DRS in case it ever gets unbanned will make you quite the happy camper in the future.
HarbingerJK says... #2
well I think Deathrite Shaman might suffer some losses because of its recent ban in Modern, but Abrupt Decay I can see going strong
April 16, 2014 5:02 p.m.