Top 5 cards to invest in
Economics forum
Posted on March 4, 2014, 2:50 p.m. by PackNAS
Still a little new to magic, especially in the realm of economics. What would you say are the best cards to invest in right now? It seems that foil deathrite and mutavault would be good to have. A penny for your thoughts. (Leave address for the penny to be shipped and a credit card number for shipping)
Deathrite Shaman i personally wouldnt invest on it now that it been declared banned from modern, meaning once is gone by last quater of this year it will no longer be playable unless you want to have it on your collection or kitchen table play it
Mutavault is a real useful land either to block or attack i would say is worth getting a playset,
i would recommend to get
March 4, 2014 3:01 p.m.
maybe over the REALLY long term. But as of now most foils, despite being worth more, are hard to sell because the demographic that wants foils is small, and most people would rather pay less for the none foil version. That being said I could see Deathrite Shaman become a valuable card eventually, but I could just as easily see him get reprinted again and have his value cut in half again. It is borderline impossible to predict the market over the long term. And really I can't imagine any recently printed card with ever hit the money marks of the older cards. Its cliche, but they just don't make them like they used to. Mutavault is already a reprint from a previous set, thats why it is as low as it is, very popular, but not incredibly hard to find. Old cards are more valuable because back when they were "cool"/standard, a lot of people dropped out of magic, got rid of their cards, or were so young they got destroyed or lost. Most people that get gets with the intent of selling them, wait for a new release, trade for them or get them in boosters, and then watch the price and try to get the most for them they can. Picking cards now that will someday become massive money cards is a long shot and anyones guess. Archangel of Thune and Xenagos, God of Revels are the first ones that come to mind for me. But once they cycle out who knows. You rely on EDH and modern to set the market.
March 4, 2014 3:04 p.m.
blackmarker90 says... #5
Deathrite Shaman sees Legacy play so he won't totally tank upon rotation, but a card to keep an eye on right now is Courser of Kruphix it is picking up steam in some modern decks that run green, and it is near staple status for any deck in green for standard right now.
March 4, 2014 3:05 p.m.
CrazyLittleGuy says... #6
It depends what type of investment you're looking for. The "safe" investments that will slowly accrue value but only after quite a long time and in small increments. The high-risk investments that would see the greatest returns if successful are an entirely different story.
That being said, I'm currently looking at these Standard cards. In the realms of safety, Shocklands, Swan Song , Deathrite Shaman , Sphinx's Revelation , Scavenging Ooze , and Voice of Resurgence seem to be reasonable. They are the ones I predict would be most likely to see a guaranteed increase at some point. However, some still have risk since they are already sitting at a high price. Notably Voice of Resurgence and possibly Brimaz, King of Oreskos (not sure about him yet though).
@Ruric I would not condone this advice, to be honest. Thoughtseize , yes, Mutavault also seems ok. Deathrite Shaman is a legacy staple still though, and has the possibility of an unbanning in Modern in the coming years, which would spike its price tremendously. I would not invest in Stormbreath Dragon or Master of Waves unless you're thinking they'll spike later this year with Return to Ravnica's rotation. Neither are Legacy or even Modern playable.
Domri Rade maybe, he's kind of peaking right now.
Didgeridooda makes a good point as well.
March 4, 2014 3:07 p.m.
blackmarker90 says... #7
Master of Waves sees play in modern merfolk and makes appearances in the new Blue Moon deck that we saw at PTBNG
March 4, 2014 3:14 p.m.
vampirelazarus says... #8
As a two of in blue moon.
Its not a big enough archetype yet to warrant an increase in its price.
March 4, 2014 3:19 p.m.
CrazyLittleGuy says... #9
@blackmarker90 That's true, didn't think of that. I don't know what to make of Master of Waves to be honest. Although, I don't think Blue Moon is going to be a longstanding archetype; it seems like it cropped up randomly to combat the surge of Zoo. What are the impressions you guys are getting?
March 4, 2014 3:22 p.m.
SharuumNyan says... #11
Anything that is played in multiple Modern or Legacy decks. The price of Modern cards is getting out of hand, but they'll probably keep going up.
Mutavault is at a low point right now, and will probably be a $60 card by the end of the year.
All shock lands are worth buying. Once they rotate they'll go up. They'll probably be at the $20-$25 point by the end of the year.
Snapcaster Mage - he just went up quite a bit, but he's only going to keep rising. He might top out at $80-$100.
Thoughtseize is cheap for the moment, but it's going to rise to what it was.
True-Name Nemesis - if any stores near you are still selling C13 decks for $30, pick some up for this guy. He's already almost $40 and has become a Legacy super star. Since he probably won't be reprinted, he might be the next $100 card in time.
Voice of Resurgence is a great Modern card. While it's only being played as a two-of in Melira Pod, he'll be played more eventually. Pretty cheap to buy now because GW isn't strong in Standard, but that $20 card will be $50 again one day.
Probably not Master of Waves . He's okay, but he'll be replaced in Modern as soon as the next-best Merfolk card comes along. He's on shaky ground as his CMC is already a little too high for the format.
March 4, 2014 3:44 p.m.
blackmarker90 says... #12
Seriously though, don't discount Courser of Kruphix
March 4, 2014 3:50 p.m.
ColdHeartedSith says... #13
Mutavault is creeping very close back to 40.00 usd and would have been a great investment at 16.00 usd pre Theros. I don't see it falling now anytime soon or at all so you already missed the 25.00 usd bus on that. Snapcaster is a good buy if you catch another low price month on him. I feel Deathrite won't realy go up or down from here much. He isn't banned in legacy and won't be but may see a short term tank from the standard cycle end.
March 4, 2014 3:52 p.m.
SharuumNyan says... #14
There's no evidence that Courser of Kruphix is going to stay relevant. Out of all the decks that could have played him at the Pro Tour, only a handful did. I'd wait a while and watch the trends on him. It's a fringe card that people are trying out, and it may or may not stick around.
March 4, 2014 3:56 p.m.
the3rdH0kage says... #15
March 4, 2014 4:01 p.m.
Agree with the3rdH0kage... Deathrite Shaman might take a little longer but he will probably see an increase and the rest that were mentioned will all most likely see a price spike as well
March 4, 2014 4:47 p.m.
the3rdH0kage says... #17
Snapcaster Mage has already had a slight spike from 20 to 40 but with GP Richmond this weekend, it'll def go up in price. I wish I would've gotten my set before the pro tour. I traded a set of lightly played Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx for one last week.
March 4, 2014 5:08 p.m.
The list of safe cards to get are:
- Abrupt Decay
- Young Pyromancer
- Deathrite Shaman
- Any fetchlands (despite their inflated price at the moment)
- Shocklands
These have relatively low cost for what they eventually will become. MtG Stocks is a really good website that gives great information on emerging prices. I'd check that out to see what kind of cards you can snipe for a low price.
March 4, 2014 8:06 p.m.
Personally I woupd NOT invest in shocks, fetches, mutavaults, or any standard staples. Shocks will drop when they rotate, standard players will dump them so pick up then, this a0plies to abrupt decay aswell. DRS may drop a lil more but hes still a good longterm right now id say. Snapcaster has more than doubled in price so id say the boat kinda sailed but he may creep more many people are hoarding till it gets to a price they wanr to sell at. Fetches are already high for modern season but i dont believe they have much more room to rise at the moment and long term will probably see a reprint sooner rather than later. Sorry on phone
March 4, 2014 11:58 p.m.
APPLE01DOJ says... #20
I agree with sylvannos, I wouldn't invest in any card with a high CMC.
Voice of Resurgence Thoughtseize Deathrite Shaman would be my picks.
If DRS is unbanned and never reprinted in 2 years it will be a $60+ card IMO.
March 5, 2014 12:38 a.m.
APPLE01DOJ says... #21
My picks are all currently at their lows. However once out of print will still be in demand.
March 5, 2014 12:39 a.m.
vampirelazarus says... #22
mckin I agree, shocks are worthless in the formats outside of standard, mainly modern where they see absolutely no play.
Also, we shouldn't invest in one of the best removal cards ever, mostly because hey, it gets around Force of Will .
March 5, 2014 4:44 a.m.
Thank you for your post, vampirelazarus, because it reminded me of a few things. Namely, once cards are banned in Modern, like Jace, the Mind Sculptor , Stoneforge Mystic , Dark Depths , Glimpse of Nature , Sensei's Divining Top , and Umezawa's Jitte , clearly their price plummets to the dollar bin.
March 5, 2014 5:02 a.m.
In reference to vampirelazarus's original post, Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir was played as a 1x in the SB of the Blue Moon list and promptly jumped from $10 to $40 before dropping back down. If something new pops up, people will jump on the cards in it.
March 5, 2014 7:44 a.m.
SharuumNyan says... #25
The shocks actually get played in Modern A LOT. Mutavault is at such a low price right now, and it's not going to drop signifianctly after rotation, if at all. And then it'll bounce back to a ridiculously high price.
The fetches will drop when they're reprinted, but only temporarily. If you can get a good deal on them or trade for them now, do it.
March 5, 2014 8:21 a.m.
Abrupt decay is seeing standard play again and went back up a bit, ive got 17 copies ive been trading for but as far as buyinh them id only spend $$ when it gets closer to rotation and standard plauers dump them
March 5, 2014 9:06 a.m.
vampirelazarus says... #27
@sylvannos: I didn't say anything about banned cards losing value.
@OpenFire: right. He jumped, and when the novelty of the deck wore off, he dropped.
@SharuumNyan: I know, that was the joke. I might have been a little mean with it, however, and I apologize. Hell, you probably didn't even direct this at me.
March 5, 2014 3:06 p.m.
the3rdH0kage says... #28
@ mckin you do realize that shocks see play in Modern right. Before they announced that they would in RTR Block they were upwards of $20 each. They might take a slight hit when the some of the standard players dump them, but they will rebound quite quickly. And again get up to $20 each.
March 5, 2014 3:25 p.m.
the3rdH0kage says... #29
Also Abrupt Decay sees play in modern..............and Legacy
March 5, 2014 3:26 p.m.
AnagonLordofSnakes says... #32
Bitterblossom will probably spike..... OH WAIT :(
March 5, 2014 6:32 p.m.
"A penny for your thoughts. (Leave address for the penny to be shipped and a credit card number for shipping)"
March 5, 2014 6:36 p.m.
I think that's a joke haha
I'm SOO bummed about Bitterblossom :'
March 5, 2014 6:37 p.m.
@vampirelazarus: I know. I understood your joke and decided to make one of my own :3
March 5, 2014 7:06 p.m.
Schuesseled says... #36
I'd say Abrupt Decay 's are likely to be a wise investment. It's used in modern, so as soon as it runs out of print: PRICE
March 5, 2014 7:32 p.m.
the3rdH0kage says... #38
@ Schuesseled Abrupt Decay is already out of print, they keep block sets in print for right about a year. So when Theros dropped RTR when out of print. Then Gatecrash went out with BOTG dropped, and Dragon's Maze will go out when Journey into Nyx drops.
March 6, 2014 12:30 a.m.
Didgeridooda says... #39
DRS is no bueno. He will drop quite a bit on rotation. Pick him up then if you want him.
March 6, 2014 2:37 a.m.
League_of_Griffin says... #40
Hey guys. I have done a lot of buying and selling, and here are the top 5 cards that I have come up with.
Perilous Vault and/or Courser of Kruphix. These 2 very different cards are not only wanted by most are in the 8-15 dollar range. They make great trade bait, and also are just good value cards
Fetch lands. These lands are used in every format, and the only reason they are not number 1 is because they were reprinted in Khans of Tarkir
Shock lands. They were just reprinted so they shouldn't be reprinted soon.
Deathrite Shaman. This card is also used in every format and is a good, budget investment.
Tarmogoyf. This needs no explination
January 9, 2015 8:30 p.m.
Didgeridooda says... #41
Don't take the things said in here too serious on before your post though. Thread is almost a year old.
January 9, 2015 8:41 p.m.
thebdizzle says... #44
Ha ha ha ha, I had forgotten that I subscribed to this...
Didgeridooda says... #2
Look at the graphs on here. They are helpful. As far as investment goes if you do not have much knowledge of the game, don't get in to that yet. Get acclimated to the environment first with trading, and learning the right now economics of the game. Then branch in to long term.
March 4, 2014 2:57 p.m.