Uggggghhhh
Economics forum
Posted on Oct. 4, 2014, 10:32 a.m. by xGhostx
So at FNM last night, I may have shot myself in the foot on a trade that is iffy at best. I am 48 hours into quitting smoking and I think this may have effected my judgement, as normally this is not a deal I would have done, and in hind sight am regretting it.
Lost : 3x Bloodstained Mire 1x Wooded Foothills 1x Flooded Strand - Value $90~
Received : 1x Sorin, Solemn Visitor Foiled and 2x Theros Thoughtseize - Value $80~
My primary concern is that I need to dump the Sorin ASAP. He is a steady drop and I dont think even the foil will retain anywhere near his current $40-$50.
I think the Thoughtseize 's blinded my judgement as I still am a firm believer that this are a solid investment even at their current $19 local / $25 SCG pricing as well as this allowed me to finish my playset. I dont think they will ever hit the $70+ of their first print counterparts, but I would not be surprised if when Theros cycles out, these bad boys hit and hold at a solid $40~
Long term, I think the Fetches were better to hold on to due to their Eternal Value, but the market is flooded with them at the moment so I am kinda torn... Community thoughts? Was it worth the upfront loss of $10-$15 in anticipation of a set of Thoughtseize having substantial value down the road?
Involving Sorin was where you lost your way I think. I mean if you can hawk him off for a profit then sure, but he isnt going to remain anywhere near his current price once the hype dies down. I wouldn't be surprised to see him under $10 sooner rather than later. When dealing with foils like that you have to understand that it is a very small market that actually wants them. Most people would rather pay less for the same, non foil, card. I think I agree with you when it comes to the Thoughtseize , but the eternal value of fetches, an really any land like that, should outway future values for Thoughtseize . The market is indeed flooded with fetches right now, but they are still going to hold around $10 a piece no matter what happens. Thoughtseize , in my opinion, could dip below ten towards rotation. And considering the hit they took after the reprint, I wouldn't expect them to vault back up to what they used to be. And really you can get Thoughtseize for like $15 now anyways. Not $19 to $25. The guy that traded with you was probably pumped. Try your best to get rid of Sorin for as much as possible and tell all your friends to burn their Thoughtseize s so yours are more valuable.
October 4, 2014 11 a.m.
For a second I thought the thoughtseizes were foiled, and it didnt seem that bad. But yeah man i probably would have held onto the fetches for long term value. But hey, you've got plenty of time to get all your sets while they're in standard.
Also, I wish you the best of luck quitting smoking man, all the power to you. Ive tried to quit and caved too many times. Don't cave,
October 4, 2014 11:02 a.m.
8vomit using the Vaporizer, working very well. Plus I can use it in most public places, including my FNM venue :) and Foiled Thoughtseize 's would have been highway robbery for me lol
Scytec I am not running Sorin, at all. He was straight trade bait for current and future considerations.
DarkHero yeah is was the foil Sorin that got me all backwards..... I am working on dumping him today. Currently have an offer for some Fetches which will at least get me back on the right track and keep the trade binder looking healthy. Plus he wants the Foil Sorin very badly so may be able to leverage it to my advantage :)
October 4, 2014 11:13 a.m.
There you go man. Thats how the game is played. Some people value those foils a lot more than they should. If you can get some fetches back and some more fluff you'll be golden.
October 4, 2014 11:17 a.m.
I like foils...but I dont stress over them. But I love foil basics for some reason. Its my gold to have all shiny lands for all my decks. :p but I want to trade for them...not buy them.
October 4, 2014 11:52 a.m.
CommanderOfBolas says... #8
I think you will be alright if you dump the sorin soon. I would try to trade him for more Thoughtseize s or fetches if possible. Also, good luck with kicking the habit! I have had many friends and family members with serious smoking issues. A couple of them have smoking related diseases now, but most have been able to quit. Just keep up the good work, and I am sure you can do it!
October 4, 2014 12:27 p.m.
Foil land are nice, but I am sucker for old lands. Currently in my 2 active standard decks any basic lands are all unlimited ones. I love the T over the tap symbol :P
October 4, 2014 12:30 p.m.
Thanks for the kind words CommanderOfBolas :) So far so good!
Yeah the 2 I picked up last night finished my playset, I would not mind grabbing more in anticipation of future value but for anything other then the 4 I needed, it will be when price bottoms out or as filler in other trades :)
Scytec says... #2
I would have done it in a heartbeat...but not on value, I would run all those cards. And a shiny sorin would be awesome. :p
October 4, 2014 10:58 a.m.