What cards from Khans of Tarkir would make good investments?
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Posted on Sept. 5, 2014, 1:55 a.m. by Wolfninja
I'm just curious as to what people are speculating about KTK cards. Aside from the obvious fetch lands, some cards I figure will have some value are:
Utter End
Good removal, will probably see play in some form of 
/x decks, at least in sideboard. Also EDH and Modern potential.
Crackling Doom
Way better than Devour Flesh
, though it is limited to 
decks, it will still probably see a lot of play. Also seems really good in EDH.
End Hostilities Probably will be the best wrath effect in Standard, so i'm sure it will hold some value.
Sultai Charm Really good charm, will probably see a lot of play (in every format), I figure foils will be worth a lot. Hopefully the other charms will be good too.
Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker Though he is competing with Stormbreath Dragon for the 5-drop slot, I'm sure he'll still see some play. Plus he's a Planeswalker, and the hype is real.
Sorin, Solemn Visitor Should see a lot of Standard play, has potential for Modern token decks, and i'm definitely putting him in my Ghave EDH deck. Also, the hype is real.
Anafenza, the Foremost
She's a 3-drop 4/4 that can make another creature bigger each time she attacks so she'll probably see play in 
decks. Also, considering the fact that she shuts down Sidisi, Brood Tyrant
and messes up any Dredge/Delve strategy, she'll most likely at least see SB play in any Junk deck.
And a couple that most people probably wont agree with me on:
Wingmate Roc
Personally, I think this card is pretty powerful, and will see play in a lot of /x Midrange decks.
temur ascension I this card is really good in a 
Monsters deck, or maybe a Mono Green Devotion deck, with a slight splash of Blue and Red for this. Imagine Monstrous-ing Hydra Broodmaster
for 4-6 with this and Nylea, God of the Hunt
out.
What cards do you guys think will be good investments?
See, I was going to pick up a foil Utter End
figuring it'd see enough play to warant investing a single copy in.
25 bucks.
Can't do that. Not only do I not want to spend that much on a card, I also just think it's way too much for the foil of it at this point. If I pick one up, it'll be after packs begin to be opened. Because that's a little ridiculous out of the gates.
September 5, 2014 2:25 a.m.
VampireArmy says... #4
September 5, 2014 2:44 a.m.
I hear ya. And don't get me wrong -- I understand how powerful the card is. But I can't help but feeling like it's going to be one of those overhyped cards at first, that it'll drop down to like 20-ish for a foil (or less) and then eventually rise back up. I could be wrong though.
Anyone know of anyone who has been testing with this card in non-standard formats yet?
September 5, 2014 2:55 a.m.
VampireArmy says... #6
I think it shines in maaaaaybe dead guy ale legacy and control edh? I haven't seen any mention of it. I've seen talk of anafenza hitting melira pod though
September 5, 2014 2:57 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #7
Fetches, anafenza and sultai charm are my only go to investments right now. The rest, aren't really worth it.
September 5, 2014 3:03 a.m.
Yeah, I could see Anafenza there. I've been trying more lately to simply focus on a smaller number of foils as opposed to a large number of regular rares/mythics. It just feels safer. I guess a lot of what Utter End rides on is if it sees play outside of EDH. If so, I think 25 bucks for a foil is pretty decent. If not...well idk if the 25 dollar price tag will hold up too well. It's also worth mentioning that Utter End is one of the promos. That will almost certainly affect things.
September 5, 2014 3:05 a.m.
Utter End is the top 8 game day promo, It's not like it's one of the intro pack rares adding tons of foil copies into the supply. The promo is not going to affect the price of this card where ever it's price lands.
September 5, 2014 3:23 a.m.
thebdizzle says... #10
What do you think about Clever Impersonator ? Seems like it could have long term value. Copies anything other than land. It seems like a Phyrexian Metamorph on steroids. "Sure, I will copy that (whatever it may be) and win."
Maybe it's just me...
September 5, 2014 3:28 a.m.
Impersonator is very good. But right now it's also being super hyped. a regular copy will already cost you ~15 bucks. Personally, I don't see him ever being too much more than that, but maybe I'm wrong?
September 5, 2014 3:29 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #12
There is a problem with Clever Impersonator . If you copy a noncreature permanent, you can no longer blink it to reactivate its copy on something else. There are some rare exceptions, mainly in EDH, but for the most part, that is the card's downfall.
September 5, 2014 3:33 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #13
Ghostly Flicker is the only thing I can think of.
September 5, 2014 3:37 a.m.
The Doctor says... #14
yeah but that's only an if, as you can obviously still copy creatures.
September 5, 2014 3:55 a.m.
Currently, the are just a couple of cards. Sarkhan, Anafenza, the Foremost (with Chord available to us) are my top picks. Ugin's Nexus is my top pick for a sleeper card. There are already possibilities for it in Modern Tron and what not.
September 5, 2014 4:22 a.m.
The fact that utter end is 4 mana instead of 3 does greatly diminish it's playability in legacy and modern etc. It's a good card but I'm not sure it'll end up being really high. It is very good but I don't think it's THAT good.
September 5, 2014 5 a.m.
I also would have said utter end for card to pick up, but ever since it was revealed as promo, I feel its value will be too greatly diminished.
September 5, 2014 5:02 a.m.
I wonder how well the Ascendancies will do I feel like Abzan Ascendancy could increase in value, it seems quite useful.
September 5, 2014 6:33 a.m.
fluffybunnypants says... #19
VampireArmy says...
"I mean...Utter End is only slightly worse than Vindicate "
It's actually far worse it terms of Legacy playability. One more mana AND it can't hit lands.
September 5, 2014 7:30 a.m.
Yeh. I really think 4 mana just pushes it over the edge away from being a truly powerful card in modern and legacy etc.
September 5, 2014 7:33 a.m.
One less mana than Lightning Angel for one less toughness. Definitely playable.
September 5, 2014 7:50 a.m.
Now this is a card I would buy an instant playset of without hesitation. Lightning Angel is on the brink of possiblity and with Keranos breathing new life into a boring control archetype, this will fit well. The only thing I am not sure of is that not being able to dodge Decay and Bolt can be a detriment, but one mana less is definitely good.
September 5, 2014 8:01 a.m.
@Boza: Yah I'd be hesitant, too, to play this in Modern.
For Standard, I could see this definitely becoming a thing and dominating the format for an year or more.
September 5, 2014 9:46 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #24
Mantis Rider is an EXCELLENT win condition for WUR! 3/3 for 3 with tonnes of stuff added on! I'mma definitely get some of these. While some may say that they are a worse Serra Angel because serra is out of bolt range, Mantis Rider is a lot easier to protect at being only 3 mana.
September 5, 2014 12:13 p.m.
The Doctor My second sentence: "Aside from the obvious fetches..."
Boza I highly doubt Lightning Angel will get reprinted since Mantis Rider is almost the same thing. I do think Mantis Rider will see a lot of Standard play though, and maybe EDH.
@Various People: Utter End probably wont see Legacy play because of Vindicate , but Vindicate isn't Modern legal, so Utter End could still see play there, plus it has a lot of Standard potential. I highly doubt that getting a promo version will affect Utter End much, I mean, look at Chief Engineer $18 on release, $8 now, and it doesn't even see much play (as far as I know anyways).
September 5, 2014 12:50 p.m.
I guess the question isn't so much "will the foil retain its 25 dollar price tag", it's "will the foil be worth investing in?"
Unless Utter End is played as heavily as Hero's Downfall , I don't think it will.
September 5, 2014 1:03 p.m.
Looks like it's a cycle of 3-drop value creatures. This one is really good too.
September 5, 2014 6:02 p.m.
Savage Knuckleblade could go pretty well with Temur Ascendancy , and he can dodge removal, then you play him again and draw another card.
Another card I think could get some value is 
Could get pretty crazy with Chasm Skulker and both the standard Ajani's. Also has a lot of EDH potential.
The Doctor says... #2
uh, the fetch lands?
September 5, 2014 1:56 a.m.