Which M15 cards will shoot up or shoot down in price after a month in play?
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Posted on July 5, 2014, 11:25 p.m. by Sandy_Rivers
This thread is to talk about the new M15 set and which rare cards we think will have important price changes over the next month. Talk about which cards you think are currently overpriced or alternatively which cards are underpriced. Which cards will you invest in and which cards will you trade away before they drop in price?
Sandy_Rivers says... #3
I really love Chief Engineer , WovenNebula. I think if he goes up he will probably rest at $5, depending on how the next set turns out. Artifacts are clearly going to be important in the next set. He's currently a $2 rare but if the next set produces enough good cards for artifact decks he could be a good investment.
July 5, 2014 11:41 p.m.
Sandy_Rivers says... #4
Artifacts might be the next big thing. We're getting stuff like Ensoul Artifact . Attach it to things like Ornithopter and Darksteel Citadel and you have a turn two 5/5 flyer or turn two 5/5 indestructible creature? Yes please.
July 5, 2014 11:43 p.m.
CommanderOfBolas says... #5
my money is definitely on Life's Legacy . I preordered 23 of them. Spirit Bonds is probably a safe bet as well. as far as what to stay away from: planeswalkers. they are good, but they are overhyped to start out with. if you are lucky, they stay at their starting price (like kiora or Elspeth), but if not, they drop like ashiok
July 5, 2014 11:51 p.m.
WovenNebula says... #6
@Sandy_Rivers that's what I'm betting on. Personally I'm building an artifact deck for standard and I got all the m15 cards so far for dirt cheap, I think chief I got for 0.50 a piece and everything under what they are priced at currently. So I think it's a win win.
@CommanderOfBolas I agree the planes walkers will only go down there is nothing really special there.
July 6, 2014 12:49 a.m.
I feel Chief Engineer is overpowered. IMO, it should be banned in Modern. Affinity + Chief Engineer = overpowered archetype. If it isn't banned, I think it will be ridiculously high.
Garruk, Apex Predator may be 7 CMC but it's the first Planeswalker since JtMS that has 4 abilities. That card may not be $40, but it'll probably rest at 25-30.
Chord of Calling and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth are obvious choices.
Soul of New Phyrexia is the best soul and sure is an amazing one!
July 6, 2014 12:54 a.m.
InnerFlame says... #8
I agree, Chief Engineer is over powered and may see the ban list 8 modern.
July 6, 2014 1:01 a.m.
I may eat these words, but I do not believe that Chief Engineer will do overly well in Modern Affinity. In an aggressive deck that looks to cast most things for "free" anyways, I do not think it needs another accelerator
July 6, 2014 1:02 a.m.
CastleSiege says... #10
Apart from the obvious choices that have already been mentioned, I think Chasm Skulker has a lot of potential.
July 6, 2014 1:17 a.m.
WovenNebula says... #11
I think a lot of people are looking at Chief Engineer in the wrong light. Looking for a home in decks that already exist wouldn't necessarily fit this guy if anything it'd be a mutant affinity deck if he was added to the list. I personally see him as a bad version of Tolarian Academy (which is banned). You can tap chief the turn he comes into play for a colorless which is a plus, if you scale your deck right he can ramp pretty hard into much scarier things but you need a contingency plan. You could do a Birthing Pod esque deck using chief and flipping through your deck by ramping and sacking to bigger better things, kinda like what Survival of the Fittest did back in the day. There are possibilities like my suggested RoboPod, maybe I'm caught up on him to make him work but then again Chord of Calling used to be a 3.00 rare. I dunno I have so many ideas for this guy but only time will tell.
July 6, 2014 1:23 a.m.
slovakattack says... #12
CastleSiege: Same here. Chasm Skulker is easily my favorite card of the M15 set, and synergizes well with almost any U/X combination. I have big plans for this card...
July 6, 2014 3:08 a.m.
I picked up a Chord of Calling from Ravnica yesterday for $15.. What do you think it will land on after the M15 reprint?
July 6, 2014 5:40 a.m.
ducttapedeckbox says... #14
I'm just getting into the economics of the game, but I think Scuttling Doom Engine has some potential. I just ordered 4 of them for $3.50 a pop (two hours ago they were $2.00 a piece..should have acted). If they don't rise, I'll use them in a deck. If they do rise, yay I made some money.
July 6, 2014 12:26 p.m.
Sandy_Rivers says... #15
I think Scuttling Doom Engine and Chief Engineer are in the same boat, meaning that both cards will either stay at $2 a piece unless Artifact decks become a valid archetype in Standard. If Artifact decks become popular enough those two will likely go up in price. Either way they are both great cards.
Chasm Skulker is also an awesome card. Hopefully control decks can find a way to fit it into the 3-drop slot. I think a creature that gets bigger every turn and can be manipulated to grow bigger by draw spells is awesome, not to mention when it is killed it produces an army of 1/1 blue squids with islandwalk. I think pricewise Chasm Skulker could go places.
July 6, 2014 1:38 p.m.
ducttapedeckbox says... #16
I think Scuttling Doom Engine has better potential that Chief Engineer . Any deck can run it, he's unblockable against a lot of cards in weenie, token, and some RDW builds, plus he smacks you if you think about removing him. Exile or counter are the only good options against him. I guess the exile part isn't hard with the exile enchantment cards out.
July 6, 2014 4 p.m.
Dalektable says... #17
Chief Engineer Won't be banned, I can almost guarantee that. It's a good card, but It won't be as good as people are saying. Affinity doesn't need this is the thing. I expect a Tron/Affinity hybrid to come of it, but this card won't make as big of a bump as people are expecting.
~mini rant over~
But obvious choices like Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and Chord of Calling are good, as well as Life's Legacy because I love it.
July 7, 2014 12:26 a.m.
Sandy_Rivers says... #18
What do you guys think of Genesis Hydra ? I feel like that could get out of hand in green decks with enough mana ramp. Like Kalonian Twingrove you get a two creature for one cast deal out of that. Plus it would be fun to Genesis Hydra for 6 into Kalonian Twingrove .
July 7, 2014 4:08 a.m.
Sandy_Rivers I think Genesis Hydra is freaking amazing, i'm definitely going to be playing a Mono Green Devotion deck with both of them, along with a ton of ramp and other monsters.
July 7, 2014 4:29 p.m.
Sandy_Rivers says... #20
I certainly think if you get a Genesis Hydra could go places pricewise.
July 7, 2014 10:57 p.m.
Sandy_Rivers says... #21
To recap, we have Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and Chord of Calling as the obvious value cards and we should avoid buying pretty much all of the planeswalkers while they are still getting hype.
Life's Legacy , Chasm Skulker , and Chief Engineer are the currently low priced but potentially valuable cards.
July 8, 2014 12:31 a.m.
I just got some Chasm Skulker s at 57 cents each, and Life's Legacy s at 65 cents each, so i'm hoping they go up, but if not i'm using them in deck's anyways.
July 8, 2014 12:41 a.m.
InnerFlame says... #23
I bet Yisan, the Wanderer Bard sees some rise in price.
July 8, 2014 10:46 a.m.
APPLE01DOJ says... #26
Jump on it! http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-1x-Near-Mint-English-Urborg-Tomb-of-Yawgmoth-2015-Core-Set-Magic-/380945988971?pt=Trading_Card_Games_US&hash=item58b2267d6b
July 8, 2014 5:16 p.m.
MindAblaze says... #27
@ APPLE01DOJ The worst thing about that is I just bought a foil for EDH...like...two days before it was spoiled.
July 8, 2014 5:20 p.m.
_Xenagos_ APPLE01DOJ I'm not sure why you're surprised you can find one for $7, tcgplayer has the mid price at $7.07, so you can easily find them for just under $7.
July 8, 2014 5:42 p.m.
InnerFlame says... #29
Yeah on star city games they have it for 10.
That's rough APPLE01DOJ
July 8, 2014 5:43 p.m.
So where do you guys see it ending up? I thought for sure in the $15 range, but if it's going for $7 right now I'm not so confident.
July 8, 2014 6:42 p.m.
InnerFlame says... #32
I'm honestly surprised it got that low with how popular mono black is right now. It'll stay around 10 until mono black falls out a little, then it might dip a little lower.
July 8, 2014 6:43 p.m.
At least I can say I've got a Planar Chaos print one. Sad part is found out literally the day afterwards that it was in M15...
July 8, 2014 10:22 p.m.
WovenNebula says... #34
Amazon has them with free shipping for 5.99 for Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
July 8, 2014 10:27 p.m.
My honest opinion on Chief Engineer is that is overhyped and will slow down Affinity if it gets played(which it won't) cause affinity does not want to get slower it's the abiality to drop your whole hand on t1 or t2 which makes it such a good aggresive deck this will take away good cards that can get sacked by arc boundRavager and I don't entirely think that the scissors are good enough to be a 4 of but they will still c play I don't know standard that we'll but I think that if there is enough artifact support it will c play
August 11, 2014 8:13 p.m.
Gorgosaurusrex says... #36
I think Goblin Rabblemaster will be going up. It's already getting some attention with the recent "Rabble Red" decks that have been played at large events.
August 11, 2014 8:59 p.m.
I'm with Pice and Dalektable here...Chief Engineer is hardly ban worthy and probably over-hyped. Affinity already has problems finding room for cards above CMC one, like Steel Overseer , Etched Champion , and Master of Etherium . Chief Engineer just doesn't do enough.
On turn two, wouldn't it be better to play Cranial Plating , Arcbound Ravager , or Thoughtcast and attack with your Memnite s and Vault Skirge s you played on turn one? Chief Engineer doesn't speed up your clock and is, in some ways, worse than Etherium Sculptor .
The deck already plays four copies of Springleaf Drum and Mox Opal . What does it cut out of its 75 to make room for more mana acceleration? What does that acceleration do that Springleaf Drum and Mox Opal don't do already?
August 12, 2014 2:16 a.m.
WovenNebula says... #38
Chief Engineer has potential personally! it may not be any time soon that he climbs because everyone is thinking of Affinity to put him in and he doesn't really fit that theme. Maybe U/G Artifact build where you ramp into bigger baddies and throw in Chord of Calling or even throw him in a hybrid pod deck that's mainly artifacts. Only as new sets come in he may get better..
WovenNebula says... #2
There are of course obvious investments like Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and Chord of Calling . My speculation is only a "maybe" and those are Life's Legacy and Chief Engineer
July 5, 2014 11:32 p.m.