Will the price for zendikar fetch lands lower in price at all or continue to climb?
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Posted on Feb. 27, 2014, 3:55 a.m. by VegetaWins_015
Those lands cost more money than onlsaught fetches.
SharuumNyan says... #3
A reprint probably won't cause them to come down a lot in price, especially after they rotate out again. There's still a huge demand for them. Reprinting the Onslaught fetches will expand the Modern format, increasing demand even more. Doubtful that we'll ever see fetches below $20 again.
February 27, 2014 8:14 a.m.
Even if they are reprinted, any price decrease would be temporary, not permanent, as they owuld soon stop printing and cycle out again.
February 27, 2014 8:26 a.m.
I think we should follow the prices of shocks for a good speculation on how these will be affected for the pricing. If fetches are reprinted, most likely they'll be in an expansion and standard legal for a couple years. shocks before the reprints where in the 40$ range and those have dropped 50%. Lets see what happens after rotation.
February 27, 2014 9:12 a.m.
Precisely. The question is what will happen after rotation. My guess is that they'll slowly rise again.
February 27, 2014 9:15 a.m.
SharuumNyan says... #7
Shocks are definately going to rise. This is the time to start hording them.
The reprinted shocks isn't exactly the same situation though. If the Onslaught fetches are reprinted in Standard, Modern and Standard players will be buying them all at once, pushing up the prices immediately. A lot of Modern players already had all the shocks they needed before the reprint, so demand wasn't that high, and a reprint just temporarily flooded the market.
February 27, 2014 9:28 a.m.
IMO you can't really compare shocks to fetches because fetches are used in more formats. Shocks are limited to Standard (for the time being), Modern, and EDH. In Legacy and Vintage, they are quickly outclassed by ABUR dual lands. Fetches, on the other hand, are played in every format where they are legal in large numbers, often in more amounts than duals or shocks.
That being said, fetches won't go down in price. A reprint will be a temporary price reduction from the influx of supply, but opens them up to being in demand for Standard. To put this more into perspective, the original Onslaught fetches haven't gone down in price since they rotated out of Standard. Bloodstained Mire is worth the least, and it's merely plateaued at $40. Polluted Delta has just slowly climbed.
Zendikar fetches are in the same boat. We haven't seen their price go down since they rotated out of Standard. Nor has their price gone down in between Modern seasons, only climbed, then flat-lined, then climbed again for a new season.
February 27, 2014 10:24 a.m.
sylvannos and you highlight why you can compare them in this case, and I'm not talking $ to $, but percentages to percentages. Those who want them for different formats, have them already.
February 27, 2014 11:15 a.m.
Didgeridooda says... #10
On a side note. Where is the ceiling this time around? It is crazy.
February 27, 2014 11:48 a.m.
blackmarker90 says... #11
There is no celing, soon we will be paying more for lands than you would for a Jace, the Mind Sculptor
February 27, 2014 11:55 a.m.
KillTheIslandUser says... #12
Lol I can't wait to see that day blackmarker90
February 27, 2014 12:01 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #13
HA. I just checked the prices. I'm probably going to cash out.
February 27, 2014 12:17 p.m.
NobodyPicksBulbasaur says... #14
I'm pretty sure Modern exists as a format simply because Wizards realizes that Legacy is becoming the new Vintage. Soon enough it's going to be so expensive to play that nobody is even going to bother.
If it was just a staple card or two in each color, like Goyf or Jace, that would be one thing. Problem is, every deck needs lands.
With Modern, none of the cards in the format are on the reserved list, so if the barrier to entry starts getting too high, they can always reprint something to keep new people coming in. There's a lot of speculation that the fetchlands will be reprinted, specifically for this reason.
February 27, 2014 12:22 p.m.
blackmarker90 says... #15
It has been said that Wizards cares not about the secondary market. I call that a load of bullshit. They know exactly how much those fetches cost and if they have no intentions of reprinting them they will eventually lose a nice amount of the modern pop because they can't get the "required" lands.
February 27, 2014 12:31 p.m.
Didgeridooda says... #16
I see them holding off a little, then when the sales are not quite what they want, they will start to reprint them. Year or 2 down the line maybe, but it will be a spark that lasts an entire rotation.
February 27, 2014 12:33 p.m.
But they don't make money from people playing modern, generally. They make money from people opening booster packs. So why should they care?
February 27, 2014 12:35 p.m.
those of us who are interested in legacy do pay more for land than we do for most of our cards, 1 to 1. So it's not soon, it's here.
February 27, 2014 12:36 p.m.
Didgeridooda says... #19
It will have people buying more boosters, and raise sales.
February 27, 2014 12:37 p.m.
ChiefBell - they care because when they reprint them, everyone's going to buy the set the fetches are reprinted in. It'll make wizards more money, except a few people will complain because they expect to make money off of hoarding cards.
February 27, 2014 12:40 p.m.
blackmarker90 says... #21
I don't care which set of fetches it is or if they mix them, but there needs to be something done/added to the available pool if Wizards wants to justify keep Modern as their "pet" format with "easy competitive entry".
February 27, 2014 12:43 p.m.
SharuumNyan says... #22
They need to do the Onslaught ones first, just to add some balance to Modern. So many deck archetypes will be pushed from tier 2 to tier 1 when they're reprinted in Standard, and the format will be awesome as a result!
And yes, the fetches will make more people buy packs. Just look at the cost of a Zendikar booster box now.
February 27, 2014 12:59 p.m.
My comment was referring to how wizards would be affected if they didn't reprint. And my answer was that they wouldn't be affected because they don't make any money off fetches at the moment.
However, obviously you are all right. If they did print a set with fetches in again then they would sell A LOT of boosters.
February 27, 2014 1:24 p.m.
APPLE01DOJ says... #24
In modern u can still play mono and dual colored decks without fetches. Fetches are way better than the G/W Hatebears setup for example but at the same time that setup is much more affordable. Horizon Canopy is still cheaper than Marsh Flats
blackmarker90 says... #2
Sadly unless there is a Standard reprint, they will continue to rise in value as they are used in Modern and Legacy, where as the Onslaught Fetches are only useable in Legacy.
February 27, 2014 4:01 a.m.