Ash Barrens vs. Evolving Wilds/Terramorphic Expanse
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Posted on Nov. 12, 2017, 5:27 p.m. by Snips500
I was wondering why Ash barnes was so expensive for a common (at roughly $3.00 a piece) and came across a few articles about how Ash Barrens was so much better than Evolving Wilds/Terramorphic Expanse. I started thinking about this and thought that with both cards you get the mana on the same turn either way.
so...
For Ash Barrens
You are on the play
-Turn 1 You play a basic land and tap to cycle Ash Barrens. You fetch up another land and end your turn.
-Turn 2 You play the land you fetched up. Land count: 2
and for Evolving Wilds/Terramorphic Expanse
You are on the play
-Turn 1 You play Evolving Wilds/Terramorphic Expanse and pass. On their end step you crack Evolving Wilds/Terramorphic Expanse and get the basic in tapped.
-Turn 2 You untap and maybe play another land. Land count: 1-2
Pro Evolving Wilds/Terramorphic Expanse
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You don't need another land turn 1 to fetch the land
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In the case of Daze and cards similar to it you have the right land type to bounce to your hand.
Con Evolving Wilds/Terramorphic Expanse
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Doesn't tap for mana like Ash Barrens
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You don't have a guaranteed second land turn 2
Pro Ash Barrens
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You have a guaranteed second land turn 2
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Taps for colorless mana if you decide to play it
Con Ash Barrens
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Land goes to your hand so Landfall doesn't get the double trigger and you might not have the right land type to bounce for cards like Daze.
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You need another mana source turn 1 to pay the cycle cost.
Overall I think Ash Barrens is the better card but Evolving Wilds/Terramorphic Expanse can be better in certain situations. I hope you found this helpful and if I made a mistake or would like to suggest another Pro/Con for either of them feel free.
Ash is also only in commander sets, which is gonna inflate that.
November 12, 2017 5:49 p.m.
Honestly I would never put evolving/terramorphic in a deck over Ash Barrens unless landfall triggers mattered. Barrens can fix early and top decking it turn 3+ isnt terrible since it doesnt hurt tempo when just played like the others. Drawing into evolving/terramorphic when you really need a land, any land, is just painful.
November 12, 2017 8:18 p.m.
Most decks prefer the Barrens, but I found a single Evolving Wilds preferable to Ash Barrens in my Orzhov lifelink deck, where most of the spells can't use the colorless mana anyway, and I want to get something in a graveyard quickly so I can use Beckon Apparition at instant speed to get two surprise flying blockers with Nightsky Mimic.
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November 12, 2017 5:39 p.m.