Possible Veeeery broken Card
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Posted on Jan. 23, 2011, 3:56 p.m. by Carn13
Does anyone else think Titan Forge is way too OP with proliferate IN THE SAME BLOCK?!? And that this could be another Jund?
Resurrector_of_the_Soulslayer says... #3
I don't think it is too over powered. Yes its powerful and in the right deck could explode to be a key card but by its self it isn't OP. I'm recently getting back into magic so I don't know what u mean by another jund. (I know jund is a shard from alara representing 3 colors, which ones idk, I'd have to google it lol)
January 23, 2011 7:06 p.m.
Jund was "the deck" of standard before the latest rotation (RBG midrange btw). It's just an expression used now to imply dominance of standard
January 23, 2011 7:20 p.m.
I wouldn't say Titan Forge is OP, just incredibly powerful.
Sure the fact that you can mix it with proliferate and that new Vedalken Infuser makes it very powerful, but not only do the options have the heavy possibility for removal, they also require at least 4-5 turns and about 5-6 mana to get started.
Even after the wheels start turning, that is still a 9/9 titan that can be blocked as easily as ever, falling prey to Naturalize, shatter, doom blade, deathtouch, the list goes on.
So no, its not OP and certainly not Jund 2.0, but it is insanely powerful when done right.
January 23, 2011 7:42 p.m.
i think it's a future blue/white deck for sure, with mana-myrs, semblance anvils, proliferate and Indomitable Archangel instead of Vedalken Infuser for protection.
January 23, 2011 8:10 p.m.
Titan Forge is (in my opinion) unlikely to see much, if any, top-tier Standard play simply because of the very intensive mana requirements and the limited amount of toys available to break it in the format. However, it's gold for casual... :D
January 23, 2011 9:31 p.m.
π_is_the_word says... #8
Vampire Hexmage nullifies Titan Forge . It's not broken, with all the removal for artifacts that is coming in with this set and the card is just slow.
January 23, 2011 9:53 p.m.
i don't think so.
a bomb in limited, draft style formats, but i highly doubt it'll see Standard play in the near future when Mirrodin Besieged drops. The current deck formats are just too fast for Titan Forge to be a threat.
Goblin/Vampire decks will rush too fast for the user to even cast Titan Forge , let alone proliferate it.
U/W Control & U/B Control decks will easily have enough counters to deal with a drop of Titan Forge , and if not, then no big deal. Day of Judgment , Doom Blade , Duress and even jace, the mind sculptor could take care of Titan Forge or any of the tokens it makes.
besides, the token, though a 9/9, thats just it. its a 9/9, with no other abilities.
January 23, 2011 11:18 p.m.
However, i will say that the art on Titan Forge is pretty damn sweet.
January 23, 2011 11:20 p.m.
Battlecry1986 says... #11
Why does everyone discount Throne of Geth ?
I think its the fastest and most reusable proliferate card currently in print. It boils down to a few key things
Casting cost of only 2 colorless. You can sacrifice it to itself! It an artifact so any artifact graveyard return is useable Two weeks ago I got a Throne of Geth imprinted to my Prototype Portal Proliferate every turn for 2 colorless. Cant hate on that
once in the graveyard I'v also been known to pull the Throne of Geth back to hand with Salvage Scout
January 25, 2011 3:01 p.m.
I do not know who is discounting Throne of Geth , I love it.
It not only gives artifact blockers a reason for existing besides diverting damage for turn, it also allows used up trigons to fill others, allows Ichor Wellspring to become a 2 drop draw 2 cards proliferate, allows you to reuse and reuse Spine of Ish Sah , the possibilities are endless.
January 25, 2011 6:04 p.m.
Throne of Geth is a lovely card that's pretty damn amazing in limited format (Painful Infection).
January 25, 2011 6:12 p.m.
okay, you want to talk about a broken card?
galvanoth 3RR creature - beast
At the beginning of your upkeep, you may look at the top card of your library. If its an instant or sorcery card, you may cast it without paying its mana cost.
3/3
okay, i lied, its not broken, per se, but think about it. real hard.
Niv-Mizzet (idk what you guys call U/R decks but in my area we call em Niv-Miz) decks are going to get an OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNDDDDDD power boost because of that card.
or maybe not.
but i'll tell you, that this card is seriously making me think about going back to playing U/R, which i used to, playing an Echo Mage /Pyromancer Ascension deck.
January 26, 2011 12:30 a.m.
okay, you want to talk about a broken card?
galvanoth 3RR creature - beast
At the beginning of your upkeep, you may look at the top card of your library. If its an instant or sorcery card, you may cast it without paying its mana cost.
3/3
okay, i lied, its not broken, per se, but think about it. real hard.
Niv-Mizzet (idk what you guys call U/R decks but in my area we call em Niv-Miz) decks are going to get an OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNDDDDDD power boost because of that card.
or maybe not.
but i'll tell you, that this card is seriously making me think about going back to playing U/R, which i used to, playing an Echo Mage /Pyromancer Ascension deck.
January 26, 2011 12:30 a.m.
Frankly, Besieged doesnt seem to have any cards that seem all to broken.
I can name several cards that are going to get "first day love" much like Time Reversal did, then there are cards that are going to be nice in tournament decks, but nothing that really changes a format in any way.
January 26, 2011 2:11 p.m.
You know what's fun? Turn two Coretapper, turn three Mimic Vat, turn four Titan Forge, and from then on, a 9/9 for three mana during each of your turns, and if you bring out an Unwinding Clock on your next turn, and have three artifact lands/mana sources, during each turn period. Not unbelievably broken, but definitely fun.
October 26, 2011 7:56 p.m.
Not as broken as Vigor . Just broken. I swear that thing was hit with an A-Bomb.
peppyhare says... #2
Simply put. No- because of the huge mana cost required to proliferate.
Why? It needs 6 mana minumum, and a huge support strategy before it can start doing anything. Even if you use a contagion clasp +engine, that's still an investment of 8 mana for each titan you drop. Also, it can easily be disrupted by artifact removal (which is going to be a large part of every side). Even if, somehow, this deck ever achieved dominance over the metagame, people could simply use the new green artifact field wipe to 1hko the entire deck.
January 23, 2011 7:04 p.m.