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Posted on Sept. 2, 2010, 8:54 p.m. by ilikeoldcardsbetter
A lot of times when I play multiplayer (3, or 4 people) the guy who's doing nothing all game ends up winning. He just sits there watching the others beat each other down, then he finishes them all off at once. Or all of a sudden he's the strongest player out there cause everyone else has run out of options and has minimal health.
I've done it many a time, and its happened to me many a time
Im just curios to know if this ever happens in anyone else's magic circle
I think its a general rule to multi-player games. People who evade notice tend not to be the target of vendetta or response. They get caught in less tit-for-tats and wait until the time is right to make their presence apparent.
September 3, 2010 1:33 a.m.
ballard302 says... #4
Everyone just goes for me first, due to when I get Hellcarver Demon they tend to both lose a turn later.
September 3, 2010 4:17 a.m.
This happened in a game of settlers of catan i played last night. In general in multiplayer games, The tallest blade of grass gets cut.
September 3, 2010 6:49 a.m.
Sometimes it can be worse than that, even. My circle of folks has a "rule" to kill lotusreport first and myself second, pretty much regardless of format. Makes me glad they made archenemy =)
September 3, 2010 12:19 p.m.
I think every casual group has that one player that they know, if he gets off we are all toast. I know it's that way for me, in a casual game I can't play one of my slow decks because unless I get the GOD hand, I won't live to see anything.
September 3, 2010 2:30 p.m.
ilikeoldcardsbetter says... #8
@leardog agreed. There are decks everyone just knows you have to finish off before they can get out their finishers. Like my brothers dragon deck, with Kilnmouth Dragon
September 3, 2010 3:28 p.m.
My experience is that combo decks and any ascension deck u have get killed quickly
September 3, 2010 4:35 p.m.
epicmanmcman says... #10
Whenever i play multiplayer magic my bro always uses his unfair affinity deck. Everyone always goes for him but he still ends up winning a lot. It's kinda like archenemy without the super cards or extra life.
September 3, 2010 5:14 p.m.
See, what i do to eliminate my friends knowing what I use is I pick my deck and hold it under the table until everyone else picks their deck. That way they don't pick a deck to specifically beat mine. That's happens too often in my group of friends. :/
What I really want to do is get the same sleeves for all 14 of my decks so they will NEVER know what I'm using.
September 3, 2010 7:02 p.m.
We have a name for this: Hannah Syndrome. Hannah is in my playgroup, and she's a very passive player. So, we all beat the crap out of each other, because she's no threat, and then she swoops in for the win.
The sad thing is, we KNOW this is going to happen, and we can't stop it. :/
Zylo, my only problem with your tactic is it is implied that you don't offer the same to your friends. We all lay decks out, and roll dice to see which one we play.
September 4, 2010 11:40 p.m.
ilikeoldcardsbetter says... #13
sounds like hannah is a tactful magic player
September 5, 2010 8:52 a.m.
Well we all pick whatever deck we want to play at the time. I hate it when people pick decks BASED off what they see others are playing. I always pick my deck first because I'm very decisive and know what I want to play. If I see then someone picks a deck that can totally shut mine down, I still stick with my deck, I don't change it.
September 5, 2010 11:17 a.m.
She is, though she often prolongs games for the fun of it. In group play she's quite dangerous. :D
September 15, 2010 7:27 p.m.
nammertime says... #16
I hate getting mauled first by everybody... I guess I should start making super innocent decks that seem like they're doing nothing, then sit back and do nothing until I have the chance to blow the whole game up.
I'm in the group that is super glad that Archenemy came out.
September 16, 2010 11:27 p.m.
In multiplayer games, I tend to get attacked first since my deck is very offensive and gets powerful quickly. The winner tends to be the one who lets everyone hack at each other while slowly bringing out their defences. However if the deck gets powerful slowly, they also tend to be a target.
September 17, 2010 10:21 a.m.
Lol. I was playing 3 Player EDH with Hannah last night. She tried being aggressive, and died first both games.
Point? Wallflower syndrome works. The nails that stick out get hammerd down first!
September 17, 2010 6:19 p.m.
CharlesMandore says... #19
I look at the price trends of common modern staples and such, and in late 2013 there was a massive spike in price. I didn't start playing till about a year ago, but I certainly wasn't aware of what modern even was. Why did this happen?
January 31, 2015 12:42 p.m.
I think that's about when Modern really started picking up speed. It was introduced in 2011 though so not sure.
January 31, 2015 12:52 p.m.
Modern masters was released, and caused more people to be interested in the format.
January 31, 2015 12:59 p.m.
Gidgetimer says... #22
Dec2013/Jan2014 there was a massive spike right before a lot of tournaments. I think it was shops trying to speculate on what would be popular post winter banlist changes and the prices have stayed artificially high since then.
January 31, 2015 1:02 p.m.
CharlesMandore says... #24
Why do we choose to pay such high prices? Do we set those?
January 31, 2015 2:33 p.m.
Gidgetimer says... #25
In a round about way yes, people pay it so they stay as high as they are. But the problem is that the market responds much slower to downward pressure from not buying than it does to the inflation from hype.
It gets especially bad when the card shops that have their own teams decide that they want to hype a card to turn a quick profit. For example if SCG decided they wanted to make a quick buck they could write all sorts of articles about how Scapeshift is going to take Modern by storm. Raise the price on Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle to $10 and have 10 of their employees run it in the next Modern event. All the other stores would follow suit and the price would probably stay up over $7.50 even after the artificial demand had subsided.
January 31, 2015 2:49 p.m.
gnarlicide says... #26
I feel like that would almost be illegal in any other business... you know what i am saying?
January 31, 2015 3:40 p.m.
Cobthecobbler says... #27
Its more than likely because of MMA. That set brought so many people into the scene
January 31, 2015 3:44 p.m.
CharlesMandore says... #28
It's silly, to me. I feel that Magic prices could be brought down tremendously. All we're really getting is some quality cardstock and great art. Utilitarianistically, they're almost useless.
cardcoin says... #2
Well, when playing Multiplayer you have to consider which way it's being played... is it Attack at will'? Or 'Attack to left, defend from right'?
Also, is there a range limit?
These are all factored into the multiplayer format, and can cause some serious debates, as well as funny times.
No one likes to show their strength in a multiplayer game, because they are usually first to fall. It's human nature that everyone will team up on that guy first.
It's also why you gotta watch out for the quiet ones :)
September 2, 2010 9:46 p.m.