why fetch lands, elrar?
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Posted on July 25, 2010, 10:05 p.m. by mattlohkamp
So check out Jay Elarar's blue/white control -
- 1x Arid Mesa
- 2x Scalding Tarn
... two fetchlands that fetch red, even though there's no red in the deck. I can only think of two reasons to put these in:
- if you use jace, the mind sculptor to look at the cards coming up, and you want an excuse to shuffle your deck because you want different options
- to fool your opponent into sideboarding against a potential (though so far unseen) red threat.
anyone else have any idea what those are doing there?
mattlohkamp says... #3
ooh, I like the Spreading Seas idea - it sort of jumbles your opponent's curve a little. that's interesting.
and yeah, land thinning doesn't really make any sense - better off with another island or plains in that case.
but a shuffle effect with jace seems like the likeliest reason. it's interesting that an advantage that's fractional or situational at best is still worth 1 damage - I'd still like to see a new additional Archive Trap type spell to help punish heavy library search effects.
July 26, 2010 1:50 a.m.
Actually despite those facts theres an even better reason why fetch lands exist like this in a monocolor deck or a deck that uses no land of the other color on the card.
This is due to deck reliability.
I do it in my Zephyr Burn deck
What it does is once you get say 4 lands out that are those fetch cards you actually have removed 8 land cards out of your deck increasing your odds to get more spell cards, incredibly useful when you have a relatively low mana curve.
July 26, 2010 6:23 p.m.
mattlohkamp says... #6
ahhh, yes yes, you're right about that. you have an equivalent chance of drawing into it, but it effectivly pulls two cards. you're right.
July 26, 2010 9:09 p.m.
rockleemyhero says... #7
my question to that deck is why did he run 3 Sejiri Steppe ? There's no point in putting it on a wall and he cant instant speed put it on his BSA. And it also seems like he cant really afford to have lands come into play tapped, especiaaly when he wants to play that essence scatter or mana leak turn 2
July 27, 2010 3:03 a.m.
mattlohkamp says... #8
unblockable Baneslayer Angel is the only thing it'd be good for, right? and that seems a bit superfluous...
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kabrazell says... #2
The reasons you listed are pretty reasonable; Having a shuffle effect with Jace TMS out is pretty relevant. Obv the 'Land Thinning' isn't a huge deal.
Another use is if you are on the draw, a turn 1 fetchland effectively negates their turn 2 Spreading Seas in any sort of mirror.
Also, leading with a turn one Arid Mesa means they have no idea what deck to put you on. He probably just fiddled around with it and settled on 3.
July 25, 2010 10:17 p.m.