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Posted on Jan. 6, 2016, 5:38 p.m. by FAMOUSWATERMELON
Hello all :)
I'm trying to brew this deck:
The Euler Line
Legacy*
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which features this card:
Basically, I'm using Serum Powder to try to get at least one Alignment in exile before the game even begins. From there, I use either Enlightened Tutor or Ancestral Knowledge as a huge card engines to fulfill the other requirements for the win condition. Cunning Wish gets me any utility card I need. There's a bit more explanation on the deck, I promise.
One small problem with that: I've basically never played Legacy. Ever. So while I know the basic FoW and Brainstorm requirements for just about any blue deck, my card base knowledge is basically only that of Modern with a few other staples in mind. I could use a lot of help with some of the card choices, as I want to make this as competitive as a janky you-win-the-game combo can be.
Another issue I have is whether I should keep Serum Powder in the deck or not. While it can enable some very fast wins, it quickly turns into a dead draw later and sometimes just doesn't do anything even if I draw it in my opening hand.
Oh yeah, and I suck at sideboards. Especially in Legacy.
Thanks a ton in advance!!
(Also, if anyone has the time to test this deck out a bit on untap or whatnot, that would be awesome, as I currently don't have much time for full MTG games.)
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #3
I actually want to exile two in my first hand, because that's where Pull from Eternity comes in.
Intuition is already in there, but Entomb looks very fun. And FoW is definitely in there, wasn't going to miss out on that :)
January 6, 2016 5:51 p.m.
julianjmoss says... #4
I didnt actually look at your deck haha sorry. And I think its kind of silly to purposefully exile 2 of them.
January 6, 2016 6:03 p.m.
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #5
The point was that they're kind of untouchable in exile (as long as processors don't see any play), and it enables very quick wins (T1 Pull from Eternity, T2 Ancient Tomb + Alignment, T3 win with mana open for the counterspell). Not that it'll happen often though, so I'm not very worried.
January 6, 2016 6:06 p.m.
Just because you can go ham on the combo doens't mean you have to. You are playing a lot of library manipulation and FoW
January 6, 2016 6:26 p.m.
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #7
Yeah, I could definitely sit back and relax while finding pieces and playing the control game. I don't have much of an idea about the speed of Legacy though (T3 format? 2.5?), and I don't think that I'm one of the faster decks out there anyways, since I need a total of 4 combo pieces plus whatever manipulation I run.
January 6, 2016 6:38 p.m.
EndStepTop says... #8
Wasteland shouldn't be in this deck. I suggest City of Traitors to enable faster kills. Legacy has such good deck manipulation(Preordain), Serum Powder seems just bad. Logic Knot is trash, Flusterstorm is 100% better. I think with Intuition Etutor isn't relevant, it loses your Cards. Stifle doesn't belong in combo decks and Foil is god awful, if you want more countermagic consider Misdirection. Lotus Petals are your friend at giving you extra mana to hit critical mass. Outside of pitching to Fow, how will you get the Copy of Hedron Alignment into your exile?
January 6, 2016 7:36 p.m.
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #9
Alright, so one at a time:
City of Traitors sounds like a great replacement for Wasteland. I just figured it was a staple in most decks.
Serum Powder is used to cut my deck at the beginning of the game and provide an exile outlet for the Alignment. It's definitely one of the more iffy choices in the deck, but at least in theory, it looks pretty solid (I've only goldfished this deck so far, so that only goes a certain ways).
Logic Knot is here because it's essentially the only remotely playable delve spell available in Blue for Legacy. While it may eventually counter a spell, that's not actually its main function.
Etutor is relevant for when I already have two or more combo pieces in place, where Intuition becomes irrelevant without recursion. Instant-speed doesn't hurt at all too.
Stifle and Foil are both in the wishboard. Stifle is actually against certain decks, and Foil is an additional discard outlet, since I'm a bit low of those. Keep in mind that the cards will only be fetched if they become useful, so it's a bit of a win-win situation for me.
Misdirection seems like a solid replacement for Serum Powder. I could definitely see that happening.
Lotus Petal is interesting. It certainly makes the deck quicker, which is nice... I'll see about that one.
And as for getting things into exile, that's precisely the point of Knot and Powder :) And Ancestral Knowledge.
January 6, 2016 8 p.m. Edited.
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #10
Alright, round two guys!! Made some changes, what now?
January 6, 2016 8:10 p.m.
EndStepTop says... #11
Logic knot seems really bad if that's your reason. I think k Relic of Progenitus and fluster storm would both serve the role of LK better. Relic is grave hate for b/g, snapcaster and reanimator lists and enables your combo. Flusterstorm wins counter wars better than any other card.
January 6, 2016 8:23 p.m.
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #12
Yeah, I took it out, mostly because I figured I actually have a lot of exiling already. Relic of Progenitus I just feel is a bit unnecessary, though it might be good sideboard material (or is Leyline of the Void just better in Legacy?).
January 6, 2016 8:53 p.m.
EndStepTop says... #13
If you have white, Rest in Peace is the gold standard in my experience. I suggested MB relic since It's more applicable than Logic Knot.
julianjmoss says... #2
Serum Powder seems ok. It is usually used in decks that need a specific card in their opening hand for a combo. One risk you run is exiling 2 by accident. You could run Intuition, Entomb, Careful Study and Faithless Looting. The deck seems a little worse than any other control or combo decks in the format but if you use these, it will be more consistant. And Daze and Force of Will are pretty important.
January 6, 2016 5:44 p.m.