Legacy Wr Death and Taxes or Maverick?
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Posted on Nov. 2, 2015, 11:32 a.m. by AkromaPhage6
Which deck is stronger in legacy?
PhyrexianScience says... #3
I piloted both for a while. Here are my thoughts:
Maverick most definitely has more... variety? It has more of a removal package in Abrupt Decay and sometimes Murderous Cut, it has draw power in Dark Confidant, and it has the beats with Knight of the Reliquary which also allows for a land toolbox.
Death and Taxes is much more consistent. Tax effects with Thalia, Guardian of Thraben and Vryn Wingmare really help solidify your plans against non-creature based decks. The massive amount of fliers that DnT has access to is really helpful against a multitude of decks in the format, allowing you to get in unblocked damage very frequently. AEther Vial allows for some pretty sweet tricks, such as flashing in a Serra Avenger before the turn limit on casting it is up. It also prevents counterspells from hitting your guys.
Overall, Death and Taxes is the better deck. It has put up good results at tournaments across the board and will continue to do so. Maverick only shows up here and there.
November 2, 2015 1:34 p.m.
zyphermage says... #4
I don't think either deck is considered tier 1. I kind of wonder why you mean the sideboard cards are better for death and taxes? That really depends on what you expect to face. Both decks can and should run karakas.
I would argue maverick is better because of Knight of the Reliquary. Also Green Sun's Zenith gives you a better silver bullet package, which is another thing I would say about mavericks sideboard actually being better. The creature sideboarded stuff is tutorable, so is the land because of kotr, and obviously both decks tutor equipment. So yeah I guess in summary it just dawned on me that maverick is good at tutoring for land, creatures, and equipment.
November 2, 2015 1:35 p.m. Edited.
zyphermage says... #5
Yeah consistency for d&t does make it a lot better. Anything without brainstorm lacks some consistency to start with. I feel like maybe maverick is played less because of the need for goyfs, savannah (I feel like this dual is not incredibly popular, you can get it under $60 which is less than baby jace and snapcaster), and also needing Noble Hierarch among other stuffs might turn people off. Even with D&t needing vials and ports, more wastes, I suppose maverick is more expensive.
November 2, 2015 1:43 p.m.
zyphermage says... #6
Both decks struggle against combo. I think maverick is much better against miracles, even though it isn't really the menace it used to be. Most miracle pilots aren't even Joe Losset quality obviously.
November 2, 2015 1:45 p.m.
NotSoLuckyLydia says... #7
I mean, I don't know where you're getting the idea that Death and Taxes is bad against combo decks? Thalia, Wingmare, Revoker, Karakas, and now Imp Recruiter+Magus when you're Wr. Plus Canonist, RIP, Spirit of the Labyrinth, and plenty more. You're positive against Sneak & Show (which is the primary show&tell deck again) even against ANT and TES, Jitte lets you walk all over elves, (not to mention Revoker) and most of your bad matchups in the combo bracket are bad decks that don't see play very often.
Clearly, Death and Taxes has a rough time against Miracles. But overall, I'd MUCH rather play Wr D&T than Maverick. Both are skill testing decks, but the advantages to Death and Taxes are much higher than the advantages of Maverick.
November 2, 2015 10:07 p.m.
zyphermage says... #8
The reason I say D&T was bad against combo was because of the slow clock, not that they did not have anything to slow combo down. 1 hatebear definitely isn't enough to make storm flinch either that is for sure. It definitely depends on the draw but I tend to favor storm automatically. I just have bias against D&T myself cause I play lands and I think it functions on the mana denial access better while going longer and bigger. I guess it could be said it is my arch nemesis. Honestly I would rather play neither but I like Green Sun's Zenith, probably my favorite green card.
November 3, 2015 12:33 a.m. Edited.
What...? A single Thalia, Guardian of Thraben with a Wasteland or Rishadan Port will completely stop a Storm deck and kill them before they go off. It's not like you're going to draw a bunch of dead cards in all those turns. Storm is finely-tuned to hit an exact storm count of 10 after resolving Tendrils of Agony. A single hatebear virtually doubles the cost of all their spells.
November 7, 2015 4:01 p.m.
zyphermage says... #10
That all sounds good and well but I have seen many times before, a good storm player will play around what you just said all day long. They can do more than 10 storm too. Like I said it is the slow clock. A thalia alone is a 10 turn clock, give storm 2-3 draws or more and it will kill you.
November 7, 2015 5:05 p.m. Edited.
zyphermage says... #11
Also Dread of Night is a card. Death and Taxes is a great deck but storm is a brutal monster. Either deck can win for sure, it does say something about D&T when Storm always dedicates sideboards to it.
Coinman1863 says... #2
Death and taxes is generally better because the sideboard options are better than Maverick. Also it is more proactive than Maverick with makes for better matchups overall against most kinds of decks. It also allows you to maindeck Karakas to deal with those pesky legendary creatures which commonly pop up in legacy.
November 2, 2015 11:44 a.m.