Are Lizard Warrior and Viashino Warrior the same guy?
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Posted on Feb. 3, 2022, 2:01 a.m. by KorandAngels
Although they have different species in theory, the two classic cards Lizard Warrior and Viashino Warrior Look like pretty much the same guy. Feel free to debate whether having a Viashino type is a good thing too, but mostly just talk about those two cards.
TypicalTimmy says... #3
My understanding is Viashino is akin to Leonin (Lion) - the anthropomorphised of a specific animal. The same for Loxodon (Elephant), Rhox (Rhino) and other such entities.
Given that these cards are 100% identical in terms of MV, casting cost, stats and lack of abilities, it's quite possible this is the "same guy", but printed twice when the Viashino type was made.
February 3, 2022 5:34 a.m.
I don't think so. Lizard Warrior's tail stripes are thicker and darker, and continue up its neck onto its head. The Viashino Warrior's tail stripes are thinner, and its neck is a single color. They could be siblings, though.
February 3, 2022 1:53 p.m.
It's definitely taxonomic mimicry : ) One of them is clearly an amphibious man pretending to be a reptilian man. Which one it is though? To find out we will need Lonis, Cryptozoologist or maybe Tamiyo, Field Researcher
February 3, 2022 3:35 p.m.
DragonWolf420 says... #6
Lizard Warrior is a functional reprint of Viashino Warrior, but that doesn't mean it's the same individual. nameless creatures are just "extras" in the storyline.
February 4, 2022 3:57 p.m.
KorandAngels says... #7
DragonWolf420 But there are several card, especially old cards but also a few fairly recently, where major characters are portrayed on what you call "Nameless" cards.
February 4, 2022 8:38 p.m.
DragonWolf420 says... #8
KorandAngels: i said "nameless creatures", not "nameless cards". also, just because a major character is in the art, doesn't mean that character is who is being represented. chandra is in the art for Chandra's Spitfire, but it's not a chandra card. can you give some examples of what you mean?
February 4, 2022 9:07 p.m.
KorandAngels says... #9
DragonWolf420 I was talking about the Delver of Secrets Flip, Insectile Aberration, Aberrant Researcher Flip, Perfected Form, Docent of Perfection Flip, Final Iteration series. All 3 cards used to be the same guy before they changed the art of Delver of Secrets and ruined the story. Look up the old version and perceive that they are indeed the same character.
February 4, 2022 9:20 p.m.
DragonWolf420 says... #10
KorandAngels: look up the old version...of what exactly? not sure what you mean by "perceive" that they are the same character. perception is not necessarily reality. is that character mentioned specifically in any of the books? if so, can you name the book?
February 4, 2022 11:47 p.m.
DragonWolf420 I think what KorandAngels is going for is the the art and flavor text of the named cards, starting in Innistrad, shows the development of a researcher doing some entomological studies, partially fusing with an insect, developing the fusion further, and then finding further subjects (victims) to practice on. The art by Nils Hamm appears to show the same person/bugmonster throughout, and the flavor text is cohesive and linear. It acted as as a callback/continuation of a single card, and is a self-contained story. I don't know if it's in a book, but it doesn't really need to be.
For a shorter, two card version, Irresistible Prey and Prey's Vengeance tell the heartbreaking story of a hungry baloth through card names and Jesper Esjing's art.
Omniscience_is_life says... #2
Woah. If these are the same I'll never play magic the same again
Less seriously, I think having Viashino as a type is fine, but there are other types that maybe should've been prioritized first
February 3, 2022 2:46 a.m.