Is Mogis a Minotaur?
Lore forum
Posted on Feb. 18, 2014, 6:23 p.m. by Apoc
A discussion going around my card shop is Mogis considered a Minotaur in addition to being leg enchant creature god?
technically no bc no where on the card does it specify that he is
February 18, 2014 6:28 p.m.
Is Ephara a human? Is Xenagos a satyr? Is Thassa a merfolk? Is Phenax a Zombie?
February 18, 2014 6:29 p.m.
megawurmple says... #6
All of a card's types and subtypes are listed in the type line. If it doesn't say Minotaur in the type line, then he isn't a Minotaur.
February 18, 2014 6:34 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #7
Rules questions should be asked in the Q&A.
Lore questions should be asked in Lore.
This is really a rules question, based on the wording, but I can't convert it to a Q&A thread. I can, however, move it to Lore.
February 18, 2014 6:37 p.m.
FaustHarbinger says... #8
If you are ever wondering what creature types a card is it will ALWAYS be stated ON THE CARD. as for lore wise the gods can take the form of whatever they want. Mogis just prefers the form of his favorite creature - The Minotaur.
February 18, 2014 6:39 p.m.
Servo_Token says... #9
Technically Xenagos would be considered a satyr, or at least an ex-satyr, as that was his form pre-god.
As for the rest of them, this has been answered, because as far as we know, the rest of the gods haven't ever not been gods.
February 18, 2014 7 p.m.
Schuesseled says... #10
By lore he is, by the card he's not.
Like all those old human soldiers that didn't say human on the card, unless they were updated they aren't humans despite looking human so something that effects humans ignores them.
February 18, 2014 8:59 p.m.
It was also mentioned somewhere that Mogis and Iroas are brothers. Can a minotaur and a centaur be biological brothers? Are the Theros gods biological at all, or are they will made solid... and filled with stars? If there had been more room on the cards or shorter words in our language, it's possible that it might have been pushed in the direction of tribal gods. So far, however: not the case.
February 20, 2014 1:26 p.m.
Servo_Token says... #12
By myth, a centaur is half man half horse. However, Bulls and Horses can look fairly similar. If both Mogis and Iroas are Half Man, Half Bull shape, Mogis with a bull top and iroas with a human top, yes, it is possible that they can be brothers. The gods in Greek mythology were only sometimes effected by biology, so it's really up in the air and depends on what the artist wants to do with it.
I don't think that tribal gods would have been a thing, even with shorter words on the cards.
Also, to those that are still adamant on the fact that things that are what they say they are on the card, this is in the Lore forum (at least now), so there's no need to continue to point out the fact that all of the gods only have the creature type God.
February 20, 2014 3:04 p.m.
Flavor wise he works fine as the general in a minotaur themed EDH deck.
March 4, 2014 6:21 p.m.
HawaiianJuicebox says... #14
Alright, so basically, as a card; No, Mogis is not a Minotaur. In the story, he is also not a planeswalker, but his form is similar to that of a Minotaur; Much like how Pharika is not a Gorgon herself, but every single Gorgon on Theros is more or less born from her.
May 12, 2014 4:03 a.m.
I don't think gorgons are born of Pharika; if anything it would be the reverse as the gods are manifestations of the will of mortals.
May 13, 2014 10:15 p.m.
HawaiianJuicebox says... #16
Here's an excerpt from the Planeswalker's Guide to Journey into Nyx to clarify that, Quincy.
''Deadly poison can be healing medicine in small amounts, and this dichotomy is reflected in the god whose province is such tinctures. Pharika is the keeper of apothecary knowledge, the source of dark magic. She is also the mother of all gorgons, and their snaky bodies resemble hers.''
So yeah, every Gorgon on Theros is Pharika's daughter.
May 14, 2014 7:44 a.m.
It's a chicken and egg thing I guess but I could have sworn that all the gods are products of mortals. Unless they mean 'mother' figuratively, as in protector rather than creator. Only enchantment creatures are products of gods.
May 15, 2014 3:09 p.m.
fadelightningmm says... #18
actually I read somewhere that although he appears to be a centaur Iros is the opposite of mogis and his lower half is actually a bull as well I cant remember where I read this though :/
May 16, 2014 10:58 a.m.
Yeah, the books confirm that Iroas is half bull on his bottom half, which is why he doesn't share colors with either centaur band on Theros. He is Mogis' twin brother, and the two chose to represent that in their primary avatars.
And Mogis primarily takes the form of a minotaur but no, I wouldn't consider him a minotaur, since Godsend elaborates that the gods can take any form they damn well please - they just prefer certain ones.
JWiley129 says... #2
He's not a minotaur, he's a god. Basically the gods of Theros can take any form their want and Mogis had chosen to take the form of a minotaur.
February 18, 2014 6:28 p.m.