Was Supreme Judge Azor I a Planeswalker?
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Posted on Aug. 29, 2013, 6:12 p.m. by cometear
So according to this wiki link and other reliable sources it appears Azor I is not native to Ravnica.
http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Azor_I
According to this statement he had been born in another plane. How did he get to Ravnica than? Does this mean he must be a planeswalker?
Lol according to the facts could you give a valid answer?
August 29, 2013 6:28 p.m.
beakedbard says... #6
Hmmmm is there any other sources saying he's not a native of Ravnica? Also he could of somehow transported to Ravnica somehow there's been thinks like this happen in the past. Seems like it probably won't be brought up in any other form though its probably just another one of those things in the mtg verse that will never get explained. Not that it really matters as far as I've seen he doesn't have a major role in any storyline.
August 29, 2013 7:07 p.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #8
He didn't have a major role in storylines... Except for drawing up the Guildpact and setting up the Implicit Maze in case the Guildpact failed to make another Guildpact.
August 29, 2013 7:14 p.m.
Should be in the Lore forum.
At any rate, I've never heard this anywhere else.
August 29, 2013 7:14 p.m.
lord_of_the_snakes says... #10
it's a wiki, it can be edited by anyone, it could easily be wrong
August 29, 2013 9:01 p.m.
I've never seen anything to say that he was a planeswalker. I'm sure there are other ways to get from plane to plane, but I'm not positive. As it's been mentioned, that could be inaccurate. I'm sure there's somewhere else you could find a definitive answer though.
September 1, 2013 11:30 p.m.
FaustHarbinger says... #13
I agree with bantam1234, it is a wiki. they can be changed by anyone. one line saying he is not from Ravnica without any type of citation is very illogical and most likely false. I'm not all knowing.. but... I've bee named the "Loremaster" at my lgs and this is the first I am hearing of anything like this.
September 2, 2013 midnight
Also, the wiki states that Azor I was not native to Ravnica. Ravnica is the name of the city, as well as the plane.
Azor I lived ten thousand years before the events of the first Ravnica block. The city may very well have been much smaller back then, and may not have encompassed the entire plane yet, so Azor I could have lived somewhere else on the plane.
During the first Ravnica block, the plane was unique in that it was surrounded by a bubble that prevented souls from entering or leaving, including planeswalkers. This is explored in the Ravnica block novel cycle and is present throughout the history of Ravnica, up to the point of the Dissension set in the first Ravnica block, where it is broken.
So it's pretty safe to assume that Azor I was not a planeswalker. The wiki editors probably just worded their text ambiguously.
September 2, 2013 1:49 a.m.
Azor was definitely not from ravnica, as stated in Doug Beyer's The Secretist.
September 2, 2013 4:39 a.m.
the3rdH0kage says... #16
I'm the big lore person at ly LGS so I'll contribute I guess. I bought the DGM novella when it came out and when I got to the part of the book that is being question I noted it. Direct from the book.
"But I am not ... I am not from this world" (Jace talking to the baliff)
"Neither, as it happen, was Azor. But that criterion was not important to the Assessment" (Baliff talking to Jace)
now Azor was not from the Plane of Ravnica as stated above. That doesn't mean he is a Planeswalker though, there was multiple novels about the Weatherlight (a planeswalking ship) and its crew (a bunch of nonplaneswalkers and Urza). So you don't have to be a Planeswalker to move fromplane to plane it just isn't called Planeswalking it's called Planeshifting. So Azor could just found a hole or something and ended up on Ravnica or he could've been a Planeswalker. Nothing has been confirmed yet.I know this post was kinda boring but whatever lol.
September 10, 2013 11 p.m.
KrosanTusker says... #18
I like Iehovah's idea... I think it would be pretty cool for him to be a planeswalker. Plus, you'd have to be pretty powerful to set up a guildpact and an implicit maze just like that. No Ravnican set up the new guildpact, it took a powerful planeswalker like Jace to do it.
November 27, 2013 1:23 p.m.
Im not a native of the city im in but I moved..... does that make me a planeswalker?!
November 27, 2013 9:07 p.m.
KrosanTusker says... #20
mmdw34: yes, you are a planeswalker! At least, that's the slogan Wizards uses for Magic.
November 28, 2013 1:53 p.m.
the3rdH0kage says... #21
So someone suggested that he wasn't from the city of Ravnica, but was from the plane of Ravnica, The Bailiff from the DGM novella (I quoted this forever ago, a few posts up) says that he wasn't from the world of Ravnica. So yeah, just figured I'd post this, He wasn't from the plane of Ravnica, unless the Bailiff was wrong.
Apoptosis says... #2
Well, he and Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded should go get a beer and fly off to another plane, because neither are playable in Standard.
sorry end of the day + low blood sugar makes me punchy
August 29, 2013 6:15 p.m.