which planeswalker most powerful past or present
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Posted on Nov. 14, 2013, 9:44 a.m. by z2aaa
By powerfull done most with it my 2 are between urza and jace whats your opinion?
NobodyPicksBulbasaur says... #3
I believe the question is:
"Which Planeswalker in MtG lore has proved him/herself to be the most powerful, based on the badass things they've done using their spark?"
Criteria could be:
- Most badass thing
- Greatest number of badass things
- Something else, chosen by you
November 14, 2013 9:54 a.m.
Without a doubt Karn, though this is in raw potential and not in actual deed for the most part. This is essentially for two reasons:
-He's the one and only modular planeswalker, and has repeatedly incorporated ludicrously powerful artifacts, he is the legacy weapon. The thing urza created to do what he could not, a point for him over Urza. Nothing would stop him from incorporating more, how about mindslaver, or the mirari?
-He has perfect time travel, as in he can go back and change the past paradox free. Furthermore he is the only being in existance that can do this.
He holds back because he is a pacifist, a probably nihilist and certainly lacks a reason to try for anything anymore.
November 14, 2013 10:04 a.m.
Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker has held the title for some time now. Not even to mention the fact that he is a fuckin dragon.
November 14, 2013 10:19 a.m.
vampirelazarus says... #6
Nicol Bolas.
Or at least, in trying to prove he is, he went bat-shit insane.
November 14, 2013 11:13 a.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #7
There is absolutely no way to compare the Pre- and Post-Mending Planeswalkers. Pre-Mending Planeswalkers were basically gods- they could do anything, limited only by their imagination and experience. I believe the only Planeswalkers to be walkers during both eras are Nicol Bolas, Karn, and Sorin Markov. Iffy on Sorin.
The most powerful Pre-Mending Planeswalker was probably Urza, just because he did so much with his vast power. Nicol Bolas may have had more power, but he spend a lot of time from when he ascended to the Mending trapped inside his mind realm. Post-Mending, Nicol Bolas is the most powerful- and he's trying to become even more powerful because he's a evil power-hungry dick.
November 14, 2013 11:21 a.m.
Both post, and pre-Mending, Nicol Bolas has my vote. As an Elder Dragon, he already had power rivaling that of pre-Mending walkers. As a Planeswalker, and a very powerful one, he most likely was the most powerful walker - and entity in the multiverse. (excluding from this argument Taysir of Rabiah, in his Five Made One form, and his revisionist editing b.s. by authors.)
November 14, 2013 12:06 p.m.
I agree with Karn being the most powerful. Keep in mind that he didn't just incorporate the Mirari, he CREATED it. He created an artifact that could grant the wish of the holder. Not to mention he also created his own plane. Though, lore wise Eiko, you have a few flaws in your post.
Karn is no longer a pacifist, after the memory lock on him was shattered by a powerful blow to the head. He also cannot travel in time paradox free, as is evident by the destruction of the Tolarian Academy after he tried to go back to save Jhoria. Though it was in part due to the time machine failing, it was Karn using it that caused it to fail.
November 14, 2013 4:22 p.m.
So its down to Karn, Silver Golem /Karn Liberated vs Nicol Bolas /Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker .
My vote goes to Karn cause he can use all 5 colors of mana and that's gotta say something about power.
November 14, 2013 7:25 p.m.
Zodiac Rooster . Oh wait...
In seriousness, I would have to vote for Karn Liberated .
November 14, 2013 8:56 p.m.
MaliciousMac says... #13
Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded ....Hah.
But as stated, Karn Liberated or Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker . I personally think Elspeth, Sun's Champion is extremely powerful. I don't know how she does in other formats though, since I can't play outside of Standard/Pauper/EDH due to funds.
November 14, 2013 10:07 p.m.
Some1TookMyName says... #14
Its obviously Vraska the Unseen since her spark nothings in her way. you can read her lore, but all you need to know from it is"...her targets die swiftly once she commits herself. After her mission is completed, she disappears back into the aether, taking her expertise to other planes to gain experience and add to her ever growing collection of trophies.". Its Jace's turn next :P Next duel deck: Jace vs. Vraska!!
November 15, 2013 1:48 a.m.
lord_of_the_snakes says... #16
urza, or any pre-mending walker, they were way more powerful than the current walkers
November 16, 2013 6:24 a.m.
Pre-Mending:
Yawgmoth - No questions asked.
Post - Mending:
Nicol Bolas - When he decides to get of his ancient a**, at least
November 19, 2013 12:31 a.m.
It's always a toss up to me. Either Karn or Nicol Bolas.
November 19, 2013 12:15 p.m.
Post-Mending it's Nicol Bolas, Plainswalker.
December 8, 2013 9:11 p.m.
That link went to a deck. D:
December 8, 2013 9:12 p.m.
t321livewire says... #22
umm... karn... of course. although i am slightly confused as to why people are overlooking jace as a respectable choice.
December 9, 2013 12:08 a.m.
t321livewire, it's probably because Jace is a post-Mending walker, and as such never had the raw power that the pre-Mending walkers such as Urza or Nicol Bolas had.
December 9, 2013 6:35 a.m.
KrazyCaley says... #24
Everything any other Planeswalker, no matter how powerful, did, they did because Bolas tricked them into doing it. Everything Chuck Norris has ever kicked, he kicked because Bolas tricked him into doing it.
December 9, 2013 4:58 p.m.
Yawggy all the way for Pre.
Gunna go with Storm Crow ...Err...Karn Liberated
December 9, 2013 5:27 p.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #26
To the best of my knowledge, Yawgmoth wasn't a Planeswalker.
Turn_Soonest, Mirrodan, Argentum, and New Phyrexia are different names for the same plane. Argentum was the original name, and it was then renamed Mirrodan after Memnarch went insane and took it over. It became New Phyrexia when the Phyrexians crushed the remaining Mirran resistance force.
December 9, 2013 5:37 p.m.
I HOPE they bring back urza in like something like a timespiral effect
December 9, 2013 10:16 p.m.
idc1993 Yawgmoth was never a planeswalker. I vote for Bolas but I'm biased since he's a dragon
raithe000 says... #2
I'm not 100% sure what you are asking, but I think that Nicol Bolas is definitely the most powerful post mending at least.
November 14, 2013 9:47 a.m.